THE CHRISTMAS LIE: It's Bigger Than You Think


             THE RELIGIOUS REICH  


THE END TIMES - Unbotching Prophecy Propaganda in One Easy Lesson


Are you ready to hear THE EXCITING DETAILS of THE END TIMES?  They are very very very close, as we can see from ALL THE SIGNS!!! You are going to be so excited to hear these exciting excitable things, that you in your excitement will write us a Check for $100 dollars and buy our book/tape/seminar/lecture/video/movie/series/special/documentary/class/club membership/etc., etc., etc.

THE END TIMES? Yes, of course we are "in them". We were "in them" 2000 years ago. Of course, they conveniently forgot to tell you that when they sold you all that gobble-dee-gook manufactured in their money factories they call "ministries".  Here's the "truth" about "THE END TIMES" [from the Bible, yes, that is a very strange source to look up these things in, but since these frauds call themselves "Christian/Protestant/Evangelical" ministers and claim to be "Christians", the Bible might have something to say about it]


Exact Phrase:

1. "End Times" = 0
2. "End Time" = 0
3. "End of the Age" = 0
4. "End of the Ages" = 0
5. "Last Days" = 8
6. "Latter days" = 11
7. "End of the world" = 7


Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 

Heb 1:2 Hath in THESE LAST DAYS spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 

       RESULT: "Last Days" referred to the end of National Israel and the second Temple period. It existed 33 A.D.- 70 A.D.


Jer 49:39 But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith the LORD. 

ISBE - After Cyrus (the Persian) ...During the reign of the little-known Kharacenian king, Aspāsinē, they made incursions into Babylonia, one of the opponents of this king's generals being Pittit, "the enemy, the Elamite" - a phrase of old standing, apparently. Elam, to its whole extent, was smitten with the sword, and Pittit (was slain or captured). 

WIKI- The prophet Ezekiel describes the status of their power in the 12th year of the Hebrew Babylonian Captivity in 587 BC: " There is Elam and all her multitude, All around her grave, All of them slain, fallen by the sword, Who have gone down uncircumcised to the lower parts of the earth, Who caused their terror in the land of the living; Now they bear their shame with those who go down to the Pit. (Ezekiel 32:24)

          RESULT: "Latter Days" is a term that refers to a period of time so old, it is literally never used in the New Testament.  This period of time existed in 587 BC and made reference to the Babylonian Captivity before the second temple period.


Last uasge - 

Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but NOW ONCE IN THE END OF THE WORLD hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 

The word "World" is mistranslated, it is the Greek word "EON" (An "Age")

From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): - age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) world (began, without end). Compare G5550.

The "World" never actually ends in the Bible.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: (It is "reborn" into another "Eon" [Age])

It is good you are studying this topic. There is a lot of deception that has been created to hide Rome's deceit and it's work as "the Antichrist" in these "last days" now that we are at the "end of the world", as people are taking his mark and worshiping his image.

[See how the terms are used?]


The "End of the world", and "last days" began in the New Testament. [2000 years ago].  "Latter days" began during the Inter-testamental period [EVEN BEFORE THE NEW TESTAMENT], and was "occurring" during the conquest of the Kingdom of Elam. It is an exact term NEVER USED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, because it had already occurred.

Mormons who think they are "Latter day saints", are "late" by about 2000 years.  The "Latter Day Saints" have already come and gone, centuries ago, long before Joseph Smith figured out how to read magical Egyptian hieroglyphics on golden tablets in America. And the "Charismatics" who think they are part of the "Latter rain", are not much better off.  That happened in Acts 2, 19+ centuries ago as well.  That "rain" already "rained", stopped, dried up, and popped out a rainbow and some flowers.

Much of what we have been told are simply lies, to brainwash the public. All of Christendom (outside of Roman Catholicism) understood who the Antichrist was, and what 'the mark" was, until they began their work (about a century ago) to brainwash the Protestants in the U.S. for political reasons.  They've done a good job, or Protestants in America are generally very stupid, or their ministers are worthless greedy imposturing dogs, either way, it doesn't really matter, it is what it is.  Most have no idea what the Bible says on these matters anymore despite the widely accessible and very easy method of looking them up ... in a Bible.

On this one page, in the few references above, the entire construct of most of the "End Times", "Last Days", etc., etc., hucksterism going on in Christianity today, is eliminated. "End Times" is a phrase that doesn't exist. "End of the World" is mistranslated from "Age". "Latter days", "Last days" were thousands of years ago.  It's all a hoax. You better start learning to read your own Bible before you no longer have the freedom to even do it anymore.

There in the Bible, you will find the Truth, all these LIES were "invented" to hide. But you will have to find it on your own. No one is "getting paid" to tell you "the truth".  Once you see what it is, you'll realize why they are literally PAYING PEOPLE to LIE to you.


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Mal 2:2-3  
If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart. Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it. 

Those are obviously the words of a pretty angry prophet with a pretty angry God, but don't worry, that was a long time ago. God has had a lot of time to think about it and is now ashamed he ever said such things.  He just wants all his "ministers" to focus on "positive Christianity" now (as Hitler called it). Funny how such "positive Christianity" ended in the holocaust and the destruction of Germany, rather than godliness?  But that's what Babelism does, it "manifests" it's "opposite" because it uses an "opposite" to call "God". And God (the real one) does get angry about some things (as the metaphor is used to describe the phenomenology of having the entire source and origin of the universe itself, against and hostile to you) because of what you are doing. It does happen.

For a professional "disinformationist" however, it's simply an academic exercise, to find creative ways to confuse, mislead, muddy, and obscure.  But for those who call themselves by the name of those found in the New Testament, these kinds of academic exercises by professional "pay-per-lie", liars or private "christian" devil worshipers, should not be falsely graced with any air of dignity.  And they should be called what they are, and their work, what it is.  

Government/Corporate/Institutional paid for and sponsored deceit, passed out by academic deceivers with no conscience except that which is bought by the highest bidder, should have no place in discussions about real history, Biblical theology, religious faith, God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, what Vitamin or Pill to swallow, Mary had a little lamb, happy meal toys, the price of potatoes in China, or anything else.  Because they lie for money, and say whatever they can 'get away with' to do it.

These kinds of slime bags, lined up in rows, falling all over themselves to tell Americans, there was no link between cigarette smoking and lung disease for decades.  They have been lying since Genesis 3, and have graced the halls of human history from the Inquisitions, to the Valladolid debates, to the lies they told for Nazi Germany propaganda, to the lies they told for Soviet communist propaganda.  

They have lied here in America for the tobacco industry, the oil industry, the communists, the Nazis, the klan, the drug companies, the politicians, the Pope, the lawyers, their girlfriend, their boyfriend, their mistress, their boss, their Church, their school, their mommas... anybody with a checking account and the ability to write a check had these professional liars from some famous university or academy, falling all over themselves standing in line, volunteering to use their credentials to be the lucky liar that won the check, the promotion, or the favor.  And the examples of "Academics" on the payroll to say whatever lie is strategically important for the biggest liar with the most money at any given point in history no matter how deceptive, depraved or revolting, could fill volumes of books without end.  It could be a "college major" on it's own right, and have it's own section in the library.  

An enlightened Protestant needs to learn to use their own mind and evaluate these arguments on their own merits no matter the source, or the esteem of the "liar for hire" behind the bogus claims.  If you use Celebrex and notice it seems to be killing you, ignore the "liar for hire" they quote to tell you it is "safe and effective".  They are not the ones it will kill. And it is absolutely amazing how quickly "Academic" opinion "changes" when there is more money to be made suing people because it kills you, than declaring it is "safe" in a cooked "report".

The Dung Awards, are "awards" offered to public voices of notoriety, on religion, that express such complete and utter ignorance despite their status, degrees or titles, that one can only assume that are either complete morons with undeserving credentials, simply a "pay-per-lie" liar without a functioning conscience or normal sense of shame, or are openly serving the devil.  Usually indicated by such a lie,  that it displays a preference for any lie on earth, even if it is blatantly moronic or incredulous to the point of repugnance, rather than simply admitting an obvious, but apparently woefully unwanted truth.  To these batch of public liars, that defame, malign and bury the truth under piles upon piles of intellectual or academic human excrement, we present the DUNG AWARDS in recognition of their faithful service to the "Lord of the Flies", since that is usually what is found "buzzing around them".

In order to get the "DUNG AWARD", you have to tell such a WHOPPER, and it has to be so incredulous and moronic, that public ridicule is the only possible appropriate response.

It is hoped this award brings shame and humiliation to it's "winners" befitting the whoredom these academic "sock puppets" exhibit in their speeches.  While that hope is admittedly in vain,  it will at least, entertain our readers, with a sense of personal satisfaction.(and hopefully stress an important theological point in the process about the nature of these sources)

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C.H. SPURGEON on CHRISTMAS and the Restoration of the PAPACY of ROME

From a sermon preached by C. H. Spurgeon on Dec. 24, 1871:

We have no superstitious regard for times and seasons. Certainly we do not believe in the present ecclesiastical arrangement called Christmas. First, because we do not believe in the mass at all, but abhor it, whether it be sung in Latin or in English. Secondly, because we find no Scriptural warrant whatever for observing any day as the birthday of the Savior; and consequently, its observance is a superstition, because not of divine authority. 'Superstition' has fixed most positively the day of our Savior's birth, although there is no possibility of discovering when it occurred. ... It was not till the middle of the third century that any part of the Church celebrated the nativity of our Lord; and it was not till very long after the Western Church had set the example, that the Eastern adopted it. ... Probably the fact is that the "holy" days were arranged to fit in with the heathen festivals. We venture to assert, that if there be any day in the year, of which we may be pretty sure that it was not the day on which the Savior was born, it is the 25th of December. ... Regarding not the day, let us, nevertheless, give God thanks for the gift of His dear Son.

C.H. Spurgeon on Roman Catholicism

"Cursed be the man before the Lord, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho." Joshua 6:26 
"Since he was cursed who rebuilt Jericho, much more the man who labours to restore Popery among us. In our fathers' days the gigantic walls of Popery fell by the power of their faith, the perseverance of their efforts, and the blast of their gospel trumpets; and now there are some who would rebuild that accursed system upon its old foundations. O Lord, be please to thwart their unrighteous endeavours, and pull down every stone which they build. It should be a serious business with us to be thoroughly purged of every error which may have a tendency to foster the spirit of Popery, and when we have made a clean sweep at home we should seek in every way to oppose its all too rapid spread abroad in the church and in the world. This last can be done in secret by fervent prayer, and in public by decided testimony. We must warn with judicious boldness those who are inclined towards the errors of Rome; we must instruct the young in gospel truth, and tell them of the black doings of Popery in the olden times. We must aid in spreading the light more thoroughly through the land, for priests, like owls, hate daylight. Are we doing all we can for Jesus and the gospel? If not, our negligence plays into the hands of priestcraft. What are we doing to spread the Bible, which is the Pope's bane and poison? Are we casting abroad good, sound gospel writings? Luther once said, 'The devil hates goose quills,' and doubtless, he has good reason, for ready writers, by the Holy Spirit's blessing, have done his kingdom much damage. If the thousands who will read this short word this night will do all they can to hinder the rebuilding of his accursed Jericho, the Lord's glory shall speed among the sons of men. Reader, what can you do? What will you do?" 

From "Evening By Evening" by Charles Spurgeon
Uhrichsville, Barbour and Company, 1991.

SWEET HOME ALABAMA: Birthplace of America's "Christmas"

SWEET HOME ALABAMA: Birthplace of Christmas


What "Christian" religious leadership in this country, have done to the public is pitiful and tragic.   It is so sad to watch on a daily basis the millions of souls being seduced, deceived and ultimately destroyed by fraudulent "political operatives" and "commercial opportunists" posing as a "great Christian leader", passing out "opposite-speak" in theology to all it's unsuspecting victims, 

 Christian people have to go to work, raise their families, tend to their communities, fulfill their professional obligations, and on top of it all, learn something about God along the way.  They do not have the time to spend years in a library looking up words and histories, studying Biblical texts, and deciphering an ancient Book and it;s culture.  This task, rightly or wrongly, they have charged (and actually financial supported) the Christian Preacher to do it for them.  While they naively expect him to give them godliness, honesty, truth and sincerity from his pulpit every week, he is busy dishing out political manipulations, and theological excuse-making, as quote, "the Bible says yada yada yada". (That's if he's a "conservative") If he's a liberal, he probably doesn't even do that. He tells stories and quotes psychologists or new agey intellectualists, and philsophers.

So what's the point of these now public parasites?  If they want to preach psychology, why not just hire a psychologist to give lectures once a week?  If they want politics, why not just stay home, and turn on the radio and listen to some right-wing blabber mouth spew his venom and distortions?  There is no point in the existence of a Church that doesn't know the difference between Christ, from an ancient Roman solar-devil.

Apollyon is not Christ.  The desire to bring America under forced servitude thorugh religious laws of compulsion to this ancient Roman devil, is not making America a "Christian" country, and taking away America's freedom from it, is not "religious freedom".  And people who dress up as preachers, and sell "Christ" like a "product" to make themselves millionaires, are not "ministers of the gospel", regardless of the millions of victims they have managed to seduce, deceive and damn in the process of their own apostacy.


It was discovered in some recent polls that Fox News makes it's audience worse than stupid.  Now that's quite an accomplishment.  How do you run a news channel that makes people dumber than stupid? (meaning those that sit and stare at a blank wall for their "news"?)

Well, Fox News naturally seeking to appeal to religious "conservatives", simply adopted the philosophy of "religious conservatism" from the Catholic Church, which unfortunately is based on the philosophy of "control" through deceit, disinformation and censorship.  This brilliant philosophy was adopted into the empire, by Pope Sixtus III, and made imperial law, and led to the "dark ages" (where the entire western world became as stupid as a Fox News audience).  It took a Renaissance, a Reformation, and a Muslim invasion to end this collective insanity. Which "Fox and Friends" is now working to return western civilization back into. (because it was such a "nice" place to be)

Protestantism was an important force in bringing an end to this "darkness".  Protestantism approached the subject of religion, not through blind obedience to an absolute dictator, but through the admonition and teaching given by Christ himself: God is a "Spirit" and those who worship him MUST worship him in SPIRIT and TRUTH. (The "spirit of Truth") That is what and who God is.  That's very deep.  It's also runs counter to everything Fox News (and it's Cabal of right-wing politicians) have been doing.  Not only in the area of politics, but in America's Churches.  No one in America would put the words "Fox News" and "Spirit of Truth" together, unless they are one of those the studies discovered were dumber than stupid when it came to the news.  "Fox News" couldn't even conceive of the idea "Spirit of Truth"? They would even politicize that, and turn it into another one of their "opposite-speak" slogans. FOX NEWS:"Yes, we are committed to the Spirit of Truth in all that we do, that is why there is no need to fact check our statements anymore!"  They couldn't do it if the Vatican itself offered to pay them for it.

 So much for all that, which is not the point of this, except by way of contrast. And that contrast is why Protestantism has become as dark and depraved as medieval Roman Catholicism in this country, and the answer is that because among Protestants, it's become the same thing.  Now by the same thing, we do not mean in "every-thing", but the "same thing" in terms of it's "Spirit".  It "accepts" now a "spirit" which is not God, which is based on an antithesis to him, and which is based on the operational principle of deception and force.  And the bizarre idea that Nazi fascism is "Christian", secessionism is "American" and that Fox News" is "fair and balanced".  That's "conservative religion" in America today. Completely delusional.

 Liberal Religion doesn't know what to do with itself. It left a long time ago, and now is just trying to figure out what to give ministers to do on Sunday morning, to keep people coming to their Churches.

 Between the dead liberal wing of Protestantism, and the deceived conservative wing of Protestantism, there are the "Charismatics".  They used to do things like the "Bible" and "holiness" and "discipleship", etc., until they started thinking "in God we trust" on the dollar bill (was a secret "revelation" that God was really money).  And they turned into the joke of nothing more than a massive sea of ministers who preached like the comical fraud Reverend Ike, but now with a little glossolalia to garnish the show.



The Spanish conquest of Mobile, along with the use of doctrines from Valladolid catholicism as a form of "apologetics" against the complaints being raised by Evangelical/Protestants in Britain and New England, led to the adaptation of Rome's "Christmas" in Alabama.  These doctrines were promoted as a way to give justification for the practices of the Jesuit slave trade in the Caribbean. And yes, there really was a "Jesuit Slave Trade" taking place, despite the Catholic apologetics to the contrary. (And there is a lot of that going around)

"The Jesuit Slave trade" wasn't all based on something sinister as normally the phrase conjures up. It was logical necessity in fact, if not even "good intention".  Jesuits were the only clerical order the Vatican had authorized to do "commerce".  No one else was authorized. There were also charges being made that  slaves were being abused, so the Vatican had "Jesuits" involved in the "slave trade" to mitigate abuse and also to administer "last rites", (which is even done in Hospitals).  They had the responsibility to over-see commercial transactions for the Vatican that only they were authorized to do.  But yes, in the end, after all the explanation, there really was a "Jesuit Slave Trade", and that is why.  In fact, despite "Christianity Today's" PR job on the subject by Stark, there were even "Jesuit Slave Plantations", one of which discussed in the GEORGETOWN VOICE, in great detail.

Did the doctrines confronted at the Valladolid debates in Valladolid Spain, by Bartolome' la Casas, come from these Jesuits into the ears of the Southern plantation owners?  It obviously got there from someone, somehow.  And there was nobody else giving it to them? And they didn't dress up like English bar-maids when the Ku Klux Klan was started, they dressed in Roman Catholic ceremonial dress worn in Valladolid, Spain, exactly where these doctrines were first put together in "systematic theology" form for "debate"! (which a skeptical Protestant might even break a smile over that claim).  

If, the accounts are true, which is always a very big IF when dealing with Rome's histories of itself, La Casas was admittedly a decent man if there ever was one dressed as a Roman Priest. His book scandalous book, "Destruction of the Indies", reportedly had created much embarrassment for the papacy, which perhaps he knew it would.  The "outcome" of the "debate" however, did nothing objectively to change the practices and policies of the slave trade, but it did improve the Vatican's image (which was probably the point of the staged dramatics anyway).  But the doctrines and concepts prepared in systematic form, to argue the sub-humanization of non-white non-Europeans, by a renowned Vatican scholar, to be used against La Casas, showed up thereafter where ever the Jesuit slave trade was practiced in America. In every port of call, in every southern city, at every slave auction! So how did it get there?  

That answer is pretty simple, and pretty self-evident.  It is just the desire not to want to see it or admit it, that prevents anyone from doing it, and that desire is as much on the Protestant side of that equation, as it is on the Catholic side. Thus the "mystery" is no real "mystery".  Masons were educated men, often wealthy, and did reflect some of these views, argued at Valladolid, Spain, in their writings as well.  But the Klan was begun by Masons as well!  And almost all of the wealthy Masons were also slave owners themselves, so the thesis, it would have come from the Masons only, is not nearly as probable as it being routine "shop talk" with a Jesuit clergyman, that got picked up in conversations, and spread with the practice of slavery where-ever it went, as a result. Perhaps nothing more than an unintended consequence to those who wish to plea innocent, but also perhaps a well intentioned but bad, logical necessity of easing the guilt of a slave owner's conscience with some bad theology.(To make him feel better)

And while the more grotesque aspects of Valladolid catholicism, such as arguing other ethnicities did not actually have souls, have been openly "repented" of, and apologized for by most "mainstream" sections of America's Churches that once embraced these theologies, the main "Roman Empire" under-pinnings of this theology remain in tact, as firmly planted in these circles as their earliest days of excommunication from the Evangelical Church at large which rejected their corruptions.  By "de-racializing" these perverse doctrines, and "re-interpeting" them in a way to apply equally to stratification of "levels" of hummanity, these perversions are still present, still generating the ideas of torture, subjugation, and dehumanization as much today in "power circles" in Washington DC, as they ever did before the Civil War. (All under the name of "Christian")

The worship of Apollyon as "Christ", of course, being one of it's primary focal points of compulsion now in America, just as it always has been.  So here we are today, a couple hundred years later.  Post-Christmas America. Money grubbing Charismatic hucksters, dead Liberals, and dumb conservatives (speaking for God) and running the country into the "dark ages" all over again, complete with calls for compulsory worship of Rome's image.  Historically, the decline in American religion began the day after Rome's "Christ" mass was made law.  And the first State in America to make it compulsory law has remained the resentful anus of American culture ever since, being nearly dead last on every list there is to compile that measures the quality and progress of a State in American society.  The only states that rarely occasionally score lower, are fellow southern states equally afflicted in their own histories by the infiltration of these vile Jesuit doctrines of Valladolid catholicism.  And the only time Alabama does better, is when they play football. (Which occasionally makes up for the rest of it, at least in the minds of it's fans)  And it learned in a USC route in 1970, that discrimination even on a football field, does not make for the best team.  Alabama learned when it played as a "team", it could win, even against the nation's elites.

 Shortly after betraying America with it's law to make the worship of Rome's image, compulsory state law, the southern aristocracy of Alabama, zealously participated (along with other Valladolid states) in leading the country into the bloodiest war in US history, that did nothing for the south other than devastate it's existence.  Mississippi went from being the richest state in Ameirca, to the poorest, and Alabama, always the close second. A war that was not God's will, and that killed half of America's men to justify and defend in the end, the Vatican's Jesuit slave trade in America. 

And southern aristocracy did it with promises from the Vatican for "assistance" (that was a nice "Christian" thing for a Pope to do, wasn't it? Here, let me help you "rebel" against the law, and kill people, so we can keep selling you slaves).  Assistance that was woefully absent once the war actually began.  Despite betraying the south so terribly in the Civil-war (which the Vatican denies), the Vatican did at least manage to assassinate America's President (which the Vatican also denies).  That made southerners in Alabama, feel a lot better about using compulsion to force people to continue to worship his image, which they still do to this day (which most Alabamians still deny).  And not by accident, they also absolutely love Rome's own Fox News in Alabama, even if statistics show it makes them dumber than starring at a wall for their "news".  Alabama has always been subjugated, exploited and ultimately ruined by Vatican politics and subterfuge.


And although the "Civil War" is used to be the defining identity of these Southern states, it was an era that constituted only 4 shameful years of their existence.  Many Alabamians (though admittedly a minority), along with many godly southerners, rejected Valladolid racism, secession from the Union and the worship of Rome's image. 

The largest concentration of "inter-marriage" in America among blacks, whites and natives, was found not in New York, but in Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida.  The same southern Aristocracy that were embracing and spreading the doctrines of Valladolid catholicism in the south, were also busy labeling and discriminating against these people as "white trash", offering them a hatred even grater than the "sub-humans" they "married".  But their existence was more numerous in their midsts in this same "south", than anywhere else in America, despite the "evangelism of hate" they were busy promoting.  Most middle-class southerners will find they have inter-marriage somewhere in their family tree when they begin doing research on their family histories. Often finding at some point they not only had American-Indian (Choctaw, Chickasaw, Seminole and Cherokee), some even finding they had hidden African-American ancestry.

One of the "myths" that African-American and White-European marriages always produced "black' children came from the practice of "passing".  Children who were born fair complected, sometimes with even frizzy blonde hair, would "pass" as "white" in the south, and their "African-American" ancestry purposely "hidden" to avoid persecution.(All this from doctrines of Valladolid catholicism)

And Georgia's motivations for wanting slavery outlawed was as practical as it was humanitarian, because Rome's practices of slavery were not simply limited to the "slave-class" but extended it's grip of injustice to white southerners too.  White southerners were often made "debtor slaves" which could be instigated as easy as an unresolved "claim" of debt by someone of the aristocracy, or a supposed crime against their property.

There were entire counties in Alabama that refused to participate in "secession". Georgia was the one of the first colonies in America to outlaw slavery under it's trustees, January 9, 1735, which lasted for over a decade, until wealthy Masonic Christmas-keeping Plantation owners infiltrated the state from the north, from Virginia and Carolina, and bought it's trustees with their money to change the Georgia law.   And that is local history, as reported by local Georgians about it.  But alas, afterwards, the same colony that was among the first to outlaw it, was then transformed (by Design)  into a stronghold of southern slavery, leading all but Carolina. These geographical "hold-out" areas in America, have been intentionally "targeted" by re-location, migration and immigration to annihilate their identities, and change them from one thing intentionally into their opposites.  Massachusetts being another prime example, once the beach-head of American Protestantism, now a strong-hold of Irish-Catholicism that holds mockeries each year to defame their pre-Roman Catholic history.

Virginia (northerners) were both the source of the influx of Slavery, of wealthy Masons and Christmas in Georgia.  Florida, migrated Christmas keeping practices northward, having been the site of the first Continental Christmas conducted by Desoto in between his historical record-setting massacres of southern natives.  Among these massacres, were not just "Indians" as is admittedly reported, but also French-Protestant Huguenot refugees from Catholic France. So from Valladolid Catholicism by Conquistadors to rich Masons who worship "Jabulon" or "Lucifer", the Nicolaitan "solar-deity" as Christ.  This is how the rest of us, get "Christmas".


According to accounts of Lincoln's own words, the Vatican had "baited" the south into "Secession" promising them arms and assistance, and left them for dead after they did so, in a clever maneuver to Balkanize the United States.  The plan nearly worked, and was followed up with the murder of the sitting president, which many historians do believe was orchestrated by Vatican political-operatives in the US clergy. 

The warnings in the Scriptures against worshiping the gods of other nations, had some practical considerations well beyond the very serious theological ones, that most consider so important as to eclipse the practical and logistical social issues involved.  And while the theological concerns were truly paramount in these "assimilations", the prophets were concerned about it's "outcome" as well.  Not only what these things would personally do to each person who engaged them personally, but also what they would do to the country as a whole.  

Worshiping the "god" of another nation (that wanted to attack and destroy or subjugate you) often involved undermining it's religious identity first.  Infiltrating it's religious institutions with plants, or creating competitive religious institutions designed to over-run the nation with foreign ideology, philosophy and theology.  When it came time to "attack" these forces, the natural "immune system" is compromised, and subconscious programming has been put into place within it's own citizens to precipitate it's "destruction"


When Alabama made the worship of Rome's image compulsory state law, even the zenophobia of all the bigots in Alabama could not stop what was about to happen to their State.  It would soon thereafter become the pawn of Rome, in the Vatican's desire to destroy America.  Why would the Vatican care about America? Because America was the only country on earth that had officially "separated" it's Church from it's State by law.  It was seen as big a threat to the Vatican as communism was in the 20th century.

This "separation" created "religious freedom" in the word in a way that no other country on earth enjoyed.  So naturally, where-ever the Jesuit slave-trade had influence, such as in the southern slave-port cities of the south, this "doctrine" came under attack, and Rome's "Christ" mass become one of it's primary promotional items.  The use of "festivals" sponsored by Rome to seduce the public into it's arms was a history with Rome that pre-dated even the existence of Christianity.

Within only years after passing compulsion laws for the worship of Rome's image, Alabama, along with other "Christmas states" in the south were locked in a life and death struggle in defense of the Vatican's freedom to sell slaves in America.  Where-ever "Christmas" went in America, "sympathy" for the wrong side of the cause went with it.  And this was no accident.  Alabama learned the hard way, you cannot worship the image of Rome, and think Rome will not have a permanent base of power not only in the politics and economics, but even in the psyche and subconscious of the people who do it.

Tthe Vatican knows this truth, and that is why they work tirelessly, be it through force or deceit, to implement as many laws of compulsion over Christmas as they can,  America's evangelicals and Protestants are so stupid we not only let them violate our Constitution with their work of subterfuge, we help them do it.

Roman Catholics are a fine group of people and should not be blamed for the sloth, corruption, apostacy and whoredom of Protestant ministers in this country.  We should give credit where credit is due, and blame those who deserve blame.  They have done their job well, and we are the ones who have failed, both them and ourselves. Ducks quack because they are ducks. There is no reason to blame a duck for being a duck,  But when you see a cat swimming around in the pond quacking like a duck and drowning itself in the water in order to deny what God created it to be, you have to say to yourself, you're looking at a really really stupid cat. And we have been lead by some really really stupid cats.


Arguing with ministers who are internally spiritually and intellectually dead, or who are charismatic hucksters and frauds, or who are new agey touchy feely Christian Hindus or Psycho-bableists is a waste of time. They are gone.  But the few remaining Protestant ministers in this country who do still remain, and are still real Christians, should work together to build a new consensus of what it means to be an historic Christian in the Protestant/Evangelical/Biblical tradition. And part of that definition is the historic truth, that you do not worship the image of Rome, and take it's mark, and engage utilitarian deceit, corruption, violence and compulsion to "spread Christ",  Part of that definition, is that real Biblical Protestants and Evangelicals, do not mix God with Satan and call it the "Holy Spirit".  They do not sell and merchandise the things of God in commercial profiteering,  They do not solicit money from the poor to give to the rich.  All these things are the symptoms of damnation, a lack of salvation, and no knowledge of God (even if it does have a Th.D. behind the name or come from Rome)

The way to "save America" is not by running around blowing up abortion clinics and teaching the gnostic heresy of Traducianism.  It is not turning "Christians" into little Nazis who crusade the internet threatening to bash in people's skulls, or insulting with stupid ungodly slogans Atheists, or cursing "liberals".  It is return to being a Christian, A Real one, And insist on it as the definition of what is meant by the term in your country.

Evangelicals have been pretty beaten up.  They have been lied too, seduced and deceived, infiltrated and over-thrown, and replaced with frauds and impostures.  But that doesn't mean you personally, you and your theological heritage and your faith, have to disappear for them.  It doesn't.  It means you must reclaim your historical identity if you are the only person you know who does it.  If you do not do anything but keep living as that thing, then you have won,  That is all you have to do... just keep living.  It is your existence they wish to destroy, so it is your existence that has granted you the victory.

There are many "doctrines" going around in Evangelical Churches that Rome is going to run everything anyway in the end.  But that's not what the Bible really says.  In fact, it says Rome will be destroyed, along with all those who have taken her mark, and worshiped her image,

As you read the words of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, you might want to remember that these Americans were singing this song as they marched into Battle getting their legs and arms blown off by canon-balls and gun-fire.  And the forces they were fighting against, were allies with the Vatican of Rome, who had promised them support and victory.  Rome's attempt to Balkanize the United States, like it has some many other places in the world failed in America because of the faith and courage of Americans to defend their country against the internal subterfuge of a foreign power, a power that got it's first foothold in Alabama.


Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;

He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;

He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;

His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on. 

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps

They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;

I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;

His day is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;

“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;

Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,

Since God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;

He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;

Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;

Our God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,

With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:

As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;

[originally …let us die to make men free]

While God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,

He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;

So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,

Our God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.



Southerners have been told the lie, it was about North versus South.  But that's not really the truth. It wasn't about North and South, that's where the lines had been drawn on the map by the people who owned the pencils.  It was about America, or Rome.  We as Protestants and Americans should choose our country, our faiths, and our freedom over Rome, and no where is this choice made more clear in rejecting the worship of Rome's Christmas.  Christmas has done much more than just destroy our country, it's destroyed who we are, and our souls.

The Institutionalization of Compulsory Christmas Law was a social mechanism designed to create ideological genocide of Protestant/Evangelicalism in the United States, and marginalize them through a public policy of demonization and discrimination, so that those who remained faithful to their faiths, would be so thoroughly reduced in business, politics and economics they would constitute the lowest rung of society, if they still existed at all. The result has been exactly what we have today. Sell outs, idiots and morons for "spiritual leaders" posing as "Protestant/Evangelicals" who don't know "Christ" from a devil, or God's spirit from a "seducing spirit".  It was a policy of ideological genocide imposed through legalized acts of religious compulsion.  And thus why there is such an aggressive effort to not only continue these policies of religious compulsion in America, but increase them even more.

The people behind the "Christmas war" would have it that no business could simply do business during this time of year, unless they "publicly identify" themselves for persecution.  No retail employee could simply work at the store with saying a "Roman confession of faith" to every person that enters the store 9whether they religiously agreed with it or not).  No corporate professional would be allowed to progress up the corporate ladder without generous amounts of personal acquiescence to Rome's "confession of faith".

And what is the point of all this? Genocide and extermination of the existence of a entire people.   A people who are not only the real "Christians" of the Bible and of Evangelical history, but also who were the foundering fathers of America itself, the Pilgrims at Plymouth.


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Evangelical "Free-Church" movement is predominately a reference to the progressive movements of Christianity that occurred mostly within the United States, after the founding of a Nation-State in which there was no "State-Church" or state-sponsored "Official Religion" . Most nations on earth, prior to the founding of the United State of America, along with the official "State" was an "Official" government institution of "Religion", with "priests" on the government "pay-roll" (which naturally said whatever the government wished it to say, invoking "God" to reinforce government policy).

In America, this situation was changed because due to our Constitution, the United States government was to play no role in either dictating or financing the affairs of religion.  And in return, religion was not attempt to do the same to government.  Most indigenous Christian religion in America not only shared these values politically, but saw them as matters of Biblical teaching in the New Testament.  Europeans, who immigrated to America from nations where it was normal to have a "State-Church" often found this "Separation of Church and State" offensive.  European theologies, immigrating from State-Church systems rarely acknowledged the importance of "Separation of Church and State" as a theological doctrine taught by Christ.  The absence of this separation transforming "Christian religion" into an arm of the State, was not considered "real Christianity" by most earlier American Christians because "Christianity" itself was born out of an historical situation and experience where it was not the "State" orthodoxy of it's own day, and many if not most also shared the opinion that Europe's "State-Orthodoxies" had rendered their "Christians" void of genuine "Christian" identity, belief and experience. 

The work of many groups (such as Methodists, Baptists, Quakers, Brethren and Independent Evangelicals) in Europe that had been the victim of these kinds of immoral and unethical attacks, persecution, abuse and even murder by the "State-Church", found in the formation of America's "Separation of Church and State", a monumental and important historical achievement, that being "Freedom".  Freedom not just of religious practice, but most importantly of all, Freedom of Conscience and Freedom of Thought.  These two, being considered absolute requirements, most important of all, to the "continuing work of Reformation".  These qualities also however were found to be the most offensive of all to Rome's "Orthodox" churches, in which the State-Church had the "Moral Duty" to be "in Charge" of "the State", and thus assure it's citizenship would be "Christian".

These two opposite ways of thinking led to two very different expressions of religious conduct, ethical philosophy and historical experience.  The concept of engaging in acts which the scriptures openly condemned, such as "lying for Christ" or "killing for Christ" was so anathema to most American Evangelicals, that they saw it as "evidence" of the complete "absence" of  "genuine Christian faith".  The comment would often be heard in Evangelical "Free-Church" circles, that these were not "real Christians".  Most were "born" into a religious "label" required by their governments, and nothing more.  As late as the 1970s, large "missionary" works were still focused (within American Protestantism) at doing nothing more than "converting" these Europeans to "genuine Christian faith". (Meaning also by way of implication, a renunciation of using religion as nothing more than a "political tool" of one's ethnicity)  These distinctions of theology and ethical philosophy became primary targets in the work in America by Roman-Reich political operatives, this site refers to as THE RELIGIOUS-REICH.

The "natural allies" of State-Church fascism come in America primarily from five theological sections of the country and the "Christianity" within it. Four of the five sectors, have historic ties to ethical and political expressions of "State-Church Theocracy" theologies within America's history.  The Mormon Church in the west, the Southern-Valladolid catholic Church (small "c") in the south, the Roman-Catholic Church in the South-west and North-east immigration corridors, and the German-Lutheran Church in the northern mid-west.

The state of Utah itself at one time was the "Theocratic vision" of early "Mormon" missionaries who sought the establishment of a territory in which Mormon polygamy would not be persecuted. Southerners, who had adopted "Valladolid" Catholicism into their doctrine, and left the "general Baptist" convention (having been excommunicated over slavery), were originally allies of Rome in the Civil-War being early recognized by the Vatican and promised assistance by the Papacy from Catholic-France.

The German-Lutheran contingent were primarily historic residual elements from before and after World War II, which had been pro-Nazi among the Lutherans.  Most Evangelicals were not aware that the "Lutheran Church" itself at one time had been the "German State-Church", and Hitler's political "ecumenical" work re-united "German Lutheranism" with the Vatican in what he called "The Two Great Confessions". His "political-operative" work among the Germans promoted teachings in Germany's Protestant Churches which emphasized only the "oneness" of Luther, and his "Lutheranism" with Rome (to the exclusion of any "hard content" about what was wrong with Rome that began the "Reformation" int he first place) and Martin Bucer's contribution to the German Church (the actual founder of it) disappeared from the pages of the history books.  This was called "positive Christianity" (a term which has actually resurfaced verbatim among the Religious-Reich in America).  The creation of the "prosperity gospel" was a work along these lines, in that European fascism theology always embraced the idea of plutocracy (rule by the wealthy), the term "Reich" itself actually meaning "The Rich".  Concepts which are blatantly condemned to the point of Damnation in the New Testament (thus the "need" for this new theological synthesis to occur) to "prepare the way".  Neither is it by any accident that virtually all the "prosperity gospel" Churches (recruiting from among "Charismatic/Pentecostals") are entirely "RELIGIOUS-REICH" in their theology and politics. It is no accident because it is actually the design.  Many of these popular "mega-churches" have received, and in some cases actually got their start from "large corporate donations" from corporate sources that are "in the loop" in what is being done to engineer these theological changes (for political purposes). [restoration of the Reich]

The religious leadership of these "movements" at the very top are fully aware of what they are up to, and design their "messages" intentionally to smother Biblical and Historical truths that "complicate" their work.  In the end, it ends up requiring the replacement of the entire real history of "Christianity" outside of the Vatican, including the entire body of "Christian heritage" of their own Protestant "faiths", complete with large swaths of Biblical text (that birthed them) smothered in political opposite-speak so deep it is no longer even genuine.  Continual smothering of these facts at some point cross the line between intentional and unintentional, and become pure open deceit to "hang on too" their desired political ends, and that is precisely what has happened in most cases, and most certainly what has happened at the top.  Ultimately it is Christianity itself that is being replaced with it's exact opposite, and thus why the more it's work continues, the more and more extreme the "opposite-speak" grows to such proportions that even secular comedians begin taking up it's antics as sources of humor for mockery and amusement.  Even though the extremes in hypocrisy may "look stupid" to outsiders, none of these things are happening because the people engineering them at the top are "stupid", in fact, quite the opposite is true.  And they would much rather the general public just laugh and think they are stupid, as opposed to what they really are. (Which is in fact, worshipers of a "spirit" which is "opposite" of  Christ and the Scriptures, they must "replace" with their political "opposite speak"). That "opposite spirit" of course, in the Scriptures they are replacing the "spirit of  truth" with, is known as Satan.  And thus why when they get in power, all the "opposite" things occur.  (It is their "spirit") And so, whether by intent or accident, these are in the very real Biblical sense of the word, "Christian" devil worshipers.  The phrase solicits the idea of intent, but intent was never part of the charge in the Scriptures to begin with when even cited by the prophets against leaders of the synagouge, as intent is always denied, even when it is fully present.  What else would a "devil worshiper" posing as a religious leader do? Yes, admittedly, the phrase is primitive in it's aesthetics, but it is ultimately the truth of the situation spiritually, and one that urgently needs the clarity. Hitler was not a "Saint" and the "holocaust" was not "God's work".  Those who "worship" this "spirit" are worshiping the devil whether they know it or not, pardon the aesthetics, it is the gospel truth.


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"Jesus plus nothing"? Wow, that's a catchy slogan. That sounds really good too, probably something that will "appeal" to a lot of Evangelicals whose very theology is "By Grace through Faith".  But while you will find Ephesians 2;8 in the Bible.  You'll be wasting your time looking for "Jesus Plus Nothing" because it's not in the Bible. In fact, it's actually contradicted by pretty much everything in the Bible on the subject.  Even Ephesians 2:8 which is "Jesus plus Grace plus Faith", which is already a "plus 2" on the little marketing slogan, and we are not even getting started. There is a reason they went from "By Grace through Faith" which is Biblical to "Jesus plus nothing" which is not. and the difference, like all these subtle "differences" are engineered to introduce some very "big changes".  "Jesus plus nothing" is "ecumenical", whereas "By Grace through Faith" is just old fashioned, Evangelical and boring.  The idea everyone (who is truly Christian) should be nice to each other and work together is certainly a good one too.  That would be a truth.  "Ecumenical" meaning "THE ROMAN EMPIRE" however, is not that truth.  It is something entirely different.   And while "Jesus plus nothing" might be a great "conservative-right wing" ecumenical-political logo. It's actually more an expression of the "Spirit of the Antichrist" than it is anything even remotely Biblical or Christian.


This is one of the popular slogans, the Reich-wing "imagineers"have created for America.  It is heard in these circles and passed around with the notion, that all the Evangelical/Protestants in America are supposed to adopt this empty slogan, "Jesus plus nothing".  Jesus plus nothing?  What exactly does that mean? Well, the emphesis on this new right-wing political ecumenicalism is the word "nothing". But it is quite misleading as it is intended to be.  Because it is only "nothing" when it is something they don't want to talk about.  And then it is "Jesus" when they do.  So in other words, it is primitive verbal red and green light slogan, to command their zombies when to walk, talk or act (when the light is "green", which is "Jesus") and then stop, refuse to listen, or do not act, when the light is "red", which is "nothing")  For example, it's "Jesus plus nothing", except abortion. Then it's "Jesus". But it's "Jesus plus nothing", but do not worry about ever actually obeying him personally, as opposed to us, because that would be the "nothing" part. Stop and go. Simon says. Do not think, just obey.


In reality, the "Jesus plus nothing" is nothing.  Billy Preston wrote a song many years ago that became popular.  Every time this slogan pops up, it recalls the words from this popular song which seems to have been written almost as a commentary on it.  The lyrics go like this:


Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'

You gotta have somethin'

If you wanna be with me

The "Jesus" of the "Jesus plus nothing" crowd has turned "Jesus" into "nothing". It means literally nothing. And as Billy Preston said, "nothing from nothing leaves nothing."  It's an "ink blot" each of their "ministers" then "project" whatever "free association" they want onto it.  "Jesus plus nothing" means "nothing", and that is pretty much what he's been reduced to in their politicized "gospel" of their empire.  A "nothing Jesus".  A "Jesus" that means, I do whatever the heck I want to do as your authoritarian leader and it's "Jesus" because I'm the chosen, annointed, elect, predestined, leader, etc, _____ (fill in the blank with a Bible verse)  and you do nothing except what I tell you, because you are "nothing".  It's a "Jesus" you will never find in the Bible.  And "Jesus plus nothing" is not a verse you will ever see printed on your pages as having come from the mouth of the real Christ or his disciples. Ever.  In fact, they were quite aggressively dogmatic, their "Jesus" had some very clear "somethings" about him.


Jesus without God's Grace is not salvation.  Neither is Jesus without Faith.  "By Grace through Faith" involves 2 things "plus" Jesus.  Then of course, neither of which will happen with the "Spirit".  That's another "plus" something, and that one is probably one of the most important.  That's what causes people to become "Born again", and according to Christ who coined the term, there is no "program" on earth that can "produce it". It comes only from God, and it goes where it will. Tough cookies for the "program". But, of course, once again, this list can grow from now until Christ returns because in Christ all these things are done. And they happen through the consent and desire on the one they happen in.  Someone who is "seeking him".  Some one who actually "wants" him.  That's why the word "Grace" is there.  That's how all those things are done.  By God's grace.  But without God's grace, none of them are done, including the work of the "Spirit".  And there is nothing that you can do, to make them "be done" because God will not surrender his throne to your "empire".

1Jn 4:3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 

Here is another "plus" they leave out. And this one is very important too.  "He came in the flesh".  That was "Jesus plus another something".  His literal flesh was a pretty big deal.  And it was "something"  If you didn't have "Jesus plus literal flesh", you had an Antichrist on your hands.  And the "spirit" you were worshiping was the "spirit" of the "Antichrist".  So that's a pretty important "something".  In fact, it was the "Antichrist" movement, that began this concept of making Christ be nothing more than an empty "universal symbol", not a real literal person of flesh and blood.  Now the human brain is very resourceful, and it only takes a little thought for an Antichrist to adapt. Of course, we say that Jesus came in the flesh (and then simply remove everything that means from the rest of your theology). And most would never even know.  And that's precisely what they do.  They get right to the "Christ" of the "Antichrist" by turning him into an empty "symbol" devoid of who he actually was, and the latest version of that is this stupid propaganda phrase "Jesus plus nothing" (yeah, like including his flesh, Mr. Antichrist).  Well, "Christians" need to reject that false Christ, unless they do not mind spending an eternity with those who came up with it in the first place, thousands of years ago, when it was called "the spirit of the Antichrist".  The use of the term "Jesus" (if your actual intent is to refer to Yeshua)  to refer to the Christ of the New Testament, refers to someone in the flesh that was full of very real, very non-negotiable definitions. And even the things he taught (he said) were none-negotiables. All of them. Every last one.  Because the "authority" (and the only "authority" you "accept as a Chirstian") belongs to him alone, and your obedience as a "Christian' is to him alone, ...or you have disobeyed him, and it is not "him" you are following (it is someone or something else, lying to you about who he is)

Mat 16:24  Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow *me.

(* Note: "follow me" means what is says) Not "follow the leader", or "follow your Church" or "follow your program" or "follow your political agenda".  You always have to reiterate that these things actually mean what they say, and not the "opposite-speak" thing they have been "programming" people with Pavolivain conditioning. "Me" means "me".  Not something else they call "Me".  The problem with the "tree of knowledge", which everyone knows whose ever worked with "knowledge", is that you can "create" lines of "logic" that take people exactly opposite of any statement made.  Protestants used to refer to that as "brainwashing", nowdays they call that "theology".


So here's how Circe, the Roman witch turns your leaders into pigs with her sorcery. Ah, yes, Jesus said "follow me", but "we" are his "body". And as his "body" you should follow the "head", which is "us", because "we are Christ", we are "his Church", we are his "official", we are his "annointed", we are your "Pastor" we are the "Chosen" we are ______ (Fill in the blank with a Bible verse).  But you see, simplicity is the key to understanding everything in the Bible. If it says "a mark", it's a "mark", not a "computer chip". If it says 666, it's three sixes, it's not Ancient Chaldean converted into Greek, multiplied by Hebrew, an anagramed into numbers.  If it says "me", it means "me", not someone or something else.  If it meant someone or something else, it was have said that.  This is the "spirit" of "truth" with which the "true worshipers" must worship God in. Not hyper-literalism, but simply "x" means "x" not "y and z", or "A,B,C".

Protestant theology taught that "Christ" was the head of every believer. It was called the doctrine of the "believer-priest". And it was the foundation for all western democracy. and the idea that each was accountable to God personally for what they did, thought and said. Not some government bureaucrat in Rome who deceptively claimed it was his job to be in charge of every single one of your personal "thoughts", and stamp them all with his little rubber stamp.

Protestants didn't come up with that idea, because they were just looking for ways to come up with some other idea. They came up with that idea, because it is what the Bible teaches.  Protestants would have been passing out rubber stamps to society if that's what the book told them Christ and his apostles taught, because they were no more sophisticated than just that.  But that's not what he or his apostles taught, and they knew it.  They read it for themselves.  They knew they had been lied to over this issue.  And when they stopped the lying, and promoted the freedoms they found in the Scriptures, western Europe emerged from the "Dark ages" to the "age of enlightenment".  Science, art, literature, medicine, philosophy, astronomy, music, and civil rights all became reborn within the framework of "freedom".  It makes a big difference when  you have the "freedom" to think a thought.  Without that freedom, you cannot "think" about "the truth" of anything. Not history, not science, not medicine, not society, absolutely nothing, not even the Scriptures.  Not even Christ himself.  And that's the fallacy of Antichrist forms of authoritarian theology. It undermines Christ himself.

Not even "Christians" can be "Christians" anymore because they have to get "government approval" from a paid-off, bribed, nazi-like bureaucrat in Rome, simply to say "yes, Lord" to Christ.  They have to literally "ask permission" from a Roman Fascist, to submit to the Holy Spirit, and not call it THE DEVIL!!!  Who in their right Christian mind would think this arrangement would lead to anything but damnation for everyone.  But the sad thing about it is that the people pushing this garbage, don't have "Christian" minds.   They have minds that sit around and "study" the tyrants of history to figure out how they can "get power", and then slap some Bible verses on it, to make it "sound Christian". And it is nothing of the sort, and never has been. It's Antichrist from the word "go", ever since it's emergence in ancient Ephesus, as the "Jesus plus nothing" crowd, (including not even his flesh).  The writer of 1 John had it absolutely correct, 2000 years ago, when he called them out from the beginning saying, "Do not be deceived", "this is the spirit of the antichrist".  Amen. It certainly is. How right you are.



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Pronunciation (US):
 Dictionary entry overview: What does public square mean? 
  The noun PUBLIC SQUARE has 2 senses:
1. an open area at the meeting of two or more streets
2. a place of assembly for the people in ancient Greece
  Familiarity information: PUBLIC SQUARE used as a noun is rare.

 Dictionary entry details 


Sense 1 public square [BACK TO TOP]
An open area at the meeting of two or more streets
Classified under:
Nouns denoting spatial position
public square; square
Hypernyms ("public square" is a kind of...):
parcel; parcel of land; piece of ground; piece of land; tract (an extended area of land)
Hyponyms (each of the following is a kind of "public square"):
piazza (I.E., THE VATICAN PIAZZA SQUARE); place; plaza (a public square with room for pedestrians)
Instance hyponyms:
Trafalgar Square (a square in central London where there is a memorial to Admiral Nelson)
Holonyms ("public square" is a part of...):
city (an incorporated administrative district established by state charter)

Sense 2 public square
A place of assembly for the people in ancient Greece
Classified under:
Nouns denoting man-made objects
public square; agora
Hypernyms ("public square" is a kind of...):
marketplace; mart (an area in a town where a public mercantile establishment is set up)


Among the "Luciferians" that now control "evangelical religion" in the United States, is underway the "political agenda" to "institute" as "government policy" the exact opposite of everything that the real Christ in the New Testament actually taught. Meaning if the Bible condemned the "cutting of tree" at solstice, let's make it a "government policy" to "cut one down" at tax-payer expense, and put it in the "White house".  If Christ commanded people to "pray in private", lets make it "government policy" to FORCE THEM ALL TO SAY PUBLIC PRAYERS!  If the Bible commands you not to "Swear" on anything in heave or earth, lets make it a "government policy" to FORCE THEM TO SWEAR whenever they go to court or HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE.  And if you think all these OPPOSITE THINGS are simply a matter of IGNORANCE, you haven't seen the resume's of these people who obviously know what they are doing.  This is Nicolaitanism at it's finest.  Compulsory Opposite-speak as official government policy.


First, this website would encourage all foreign governments to REJECT MISSIONARIES from the United States.  If they push these agendas over-seas they need to be shipped back to America on the first rubber raft headed out to sea.  We are sending "missionaries" of devil worship.  They are not "Christians" anymore.  Most are "political operatives" at best, and probably full blown devil worshippers at worst.  The best thing you could do for your country and ours, and the world, is send them home on the first boat out of one of your ports.  They are traitors to Christ, and spreading their religious disease all over the world. Do us and yourselves a very big favor, SEND THEM HOME.

Until America repents of it's Devil worship under the "name of Christ' you need to GET RID OF THEM.  Don't let them do to your country what they have done to ours.  They are not there to do anything other than UNDERMINE YOUR GOVERNMENT, and EXPLOIT YOU COMMERCIALLY.  That's precisely, what they spend all their time doing here in America. That such spiritual monsters would come to your country, in the name of Christ no less, demands an apology from every Christian in America, which is here extended.


In America, we constantly hear the phrase by these people there needs to be "Religion in THE PUBLIC SQUARE" like it is some kind of either American ideal, Christian teaching or necessity for "freedom".  But nothing could be farther from the truth.  These are liars, telling public lies, to deceive people and bring their damnation.  They are political operatives that wish to use "religion" to manipulate the masses for COMMERCIAL or POLITICAL ENDS that have absolutely nothing with either Christ or the Bible, and nothing to do with "religious -freedom"

In fact, the Bible is quite clear, that the worthless hypocritical rotten puss-filled religion of the religious public-square hypocrite is damned to hell, and nothing more.

The"religion" of the "public square" has always been the wrong religion.  It's been the "religion" of "the mob" that opposes God, and fights the truth.  It is the "work" of BABEL (confusion) and it was NEVER commanded anywhere in the Bible. In fact, the Bible makes it quite clear the religion of Christ is not the one that stands on the "street corner" and prays in public for everyone to see, it is the one that prays in private where no one sees.


Act 19:24-41

For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen; Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.  Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands: So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.  And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.  And the whole city was filled with confusion: and having caught Gaius and Aristarchus, men of Macedonia, Paul's companions in travel, they rushed with one accord into the theatre.  And when Paul would have entered in unto the people, the disciples suffered him not. And certain of the chief of Asia, which were his friends, sent unto him, desiring him that he would not adventure himself into the theatre. Some therefore cried one thing, and some another: for the assembly was confused; and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together. And they drew Alexander out of the multitude, the Jews putting him forward. And Alexander beckoned with the hand, and would have made his defence unto the people. But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians. 


Exo 32:4-6
And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD. And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. 


The "religion" of the "public square" is also known as "broadway", the street where the "merchants" sold their goods to the public.  It was the teaching of Christ, that the "public square" religioon, was synonomous with the "way of damnation" in the New Testament.

Mat 7:13-21

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way,Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree thatWherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 

In fact, the "public square" religion repudiates the gospel of Chirst.


Mat 6:2-6  
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. 

When "Christian ministers" get on TV and begin talking about the "need" to have their "religion" in the "public square", what they are revealing to the public is that they are either "political operatives" or "commercial opportunists".  Either way, they are "goats" headed for damnation. (at least that's what Christ taught aobut them) Do not be deceived.  These "ministers" are impostures, and their goals have nothing to do with the kngdom of God, or it's Christ.


Whenever you hear the phrase "religion in the public square", write it off as what it is... damnation.  That is where it is coming from, and where it leads a country. America does not need "religion" in "the public square", it needs rightenousness and godliness in it's ministers.

Mat 7:5-6
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. 

How are these hypoocristes going to run the country, when they can't even run themselves faithfully to God first?

Don't believe in these deceptions. This is the "way of damnation", that Christ himself condemned. GO into your pray closets and pray in private, and God will reward you openly... IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE.


1Jn 2:4  He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


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Revisionist history to "re-do" the tyrants and criminals of history, and remake them into the "heroes" is now underway at the Vatican. Along with exalting all the Vatican's historical traitorous allies, it has taken to revising history with it's fictions once again, this time using "opposite-speak" to "re-write" "rebellion", "slavery", "genocide" and "the mafia", and indulging in "Inquisition Denial", which ought to be as BIG a crime as "HOLOCAUST DENIAL", since it's numbers were equivalent in reality. 

The Vatican is doing this of course, while at the same time it's wretched "political surrogates" in America are busy promoting it's "torture" (in violation of the Protestant anti-Nazi Geneva conventions), as official US policy, and citing the excuse it that is is "effective" since it has been "used for 500 years"), apparently not even noticing the damned contradiction.  (meaning that expression, not as profanity, but in the fullest Christian theological sense of the word possible).  And these hypocrites have the nerve to get on TV nightly and refer to their blood splattered dungeon cells, as "enhanced interrogation technique". What crock.  And the blood all over the walls and floor are what? Not BLEEDING but ENHANCED CIRCULATION? The hypocrisy of Romanism and it's surrogates, knows no bounds.

And of course, one major chapter that needs to be "re-written" for public consumption is the historical foundation of all Western Democracies (which they now want eliminate), and the man who single handedly defeated one of the largest mafia crime families in Europe, and replaced their fascist rule with DEMOCRACY.


IN THE month of May this year it is proposed to hold a conference of Italian Christians in the fine old city of Florence. Gavazzi, whose evangelistic work among his countrymen has inspired new hopes in English breasts, as to the future of Protestantism in that land of olives and cypresses, has, with the assistance of those who are equally enthusiastic for the cause of God and truth, formed an Evangelical Alliance in Italy, for the purpose of unitedly combatting "the two great enemies of the divine religion of Christ—Popery and Rationalism." They thus hope to "present a compact phalanx against the expected assaults of the coming Œcumenical Council."1 Florence has not inaptly been chosen as the scene of this Protestant demonstration. Exactly four centuries ago, it witnessed the martyrdom of a Florentine monk, who, ere the Reformation dawned, and while, indeed, Martin Luther was a youth of six years of age, had aroused the enmity of one of the vilest miscreants of all the debased wretches that wore the triple crown, and had struck a blow at the pretensions of the Papacy, which was only the precursor of that mightier onslaught which staggered the see of Rome, and ushered in the Reformation. It is worth while to run over the incidents of that short but eventful life, since its lessons are as useful to-day as ever.

Savonarola was born in 1452, of respectable parents, at Ferrara. From his grandfather, a physician to a noble duke, he gained his first acquaintance with learned pursuits; from his mother he obtained those lessons of goodness and piety which influenced his heart and moulded his character. Designed for the medical profesion, he soon evinced a passionate longing for other pursuits. Thoughtful, earnest, high-souled, his heart guided his head, and both became devoted to the inner world of spiritual life, into which he withdrew, bidding adieu to the scenes of greedy lust and worldly pleasures by which he was surrounded. He was not the first, we suppose, who sought to relieve his young burning heart by rhyming. We have very little left of his youthful effusions, but they indicate the great struggles of his soul, and foretell the thoughts of a riper and more matured and experienced observation. Thus early, he seemed to have gained a profound sense of the deep-seated corruptions of the apostate church. The profligate sensuous age moved him to write in terms of just severity; and it is noticeable how emphatically he lays the axe at the root of the upas-tree—2

"The earth so staggers under every vice,
That never will it lift its head again;
Rome is that head, so bowed with wickedness,
That ended now for ever is her reign."

Deeply did he lament the corruptions of the church. Bitterly did he bewail its abandonment of the high mission to which he believed it had been called. And yet, when he saw the outside world, he viewed it with intense disgust. For him it had no attractions. He despised its allurements; he detested its vanities; and so, with a moral determination, and a stern self-denial, worthy of a nobler consummation, he retired into a Dominican cloister. At first a lay-brother, mending the garments and keeping the garden of the convent, he became, after a year of probation, a monk. He was an enthusiastic student. As he himself confesses, he strove after truth with all his powers. Truth was the empress of his soul. He loved her for her own sake. "She illumines," he says, "the soul with divine light, and leads it to communion with God, who is himself truth." Fortunately, he obtained, like his successor of the convent of Erfurt, a copy of the Holy Scriptures. How earnestly did he apply himself to a thorough investigation of its teachings! Here, in his solitary cell, shut out from the gaieties and fascinations of Italian life, isolated from others by his very earnestness and heart-yearnings, like a panting hart braying for the water-brooks, he thirsted for the translucent purity of God's all-satisfying truth. It is true, he read the Scriptures in the light—always a "dim, religious" one—of the church, but he could not shut his eyes to the awful revelations it gave of the abomination of desolations. His soul luxuriated in the peace-infusing teachings of the Word; but his heart was stirred up within him as he compared the church as it was with its ideal state. "Where," he asks, "are the precious stones—where the pure diamonds, the bright lamps, the sapphires, the white robes, and white roses of the church?" It was thus that fourteen years of retirement were spent; the fires of suffering purifying his nature, and leading him to that higher renunciation and nobler consecration so needed for the work of the future.

Called from the seclusion of his cell, at the age of thirty-seven, to active labour in the city of Florence, Savonarola journeyed thither on foot—a dark, mysterious providence overhanging him; a disturbed world of conflicting thoughts within him; and an atmosphere of disquietude and gloom around. To what had his God called him? What meant those ceaseless agitations which electrified his soul, and burdened him as with a message from the Lord, crushing him to the earth? Subsequent events developed the foreshadowings.

Just at this time, Florence was at the dizzying height of its renown. It possessed nearly a thousand fortified positions. Its beauty of situation, its rich lands, its luxuriance, its wealth, its treasures of art, its libraries, its seats of learning, magnificent palaces, unrivalled advantages and commercial prosperity, with its gaities and worldly attractions, made it one of the wonders of Europe. If England be, as the keen satire of Napoleon has represented, a nation of shopkeepers, Florence was well-nigh a city of bankers and merchants. Being the great banking-place of the Continent, its wealth was enormous. As Corinth, under the fostering care of Augustus, and in the zenith of its commercial glory, grew licentious, and proud, and reckless, so Florence, under the luxurious sway of Lorenzo di Medici the Magnificent, became heathenish and viciously immoral. Savonarola's voice was soon heard in the church of St. Mark, censuring the tendencies of the age, and laying, bare, with merciless severity, the corruptions of the church. It must have been a strange sight to see the spare, haggard form of his pale-faced, keen-eyed, Roman-nosed monk, exciting, the crowds of listeners, and overpowering them with his vigorous eloquence. There was nothing in his voice to allure attention. It was thin and weak. Nor was there anything in his manner, for he was unpractised in speaking; but his words carried weight, and each had a flaming fire-dart which pierced its way, and carried conviction. His denunciations of the paganism of Florence, and the gross abominations of the church, stirred the city to its depths. The friar's popularity grew and spread like living fire. Men listened and shuddered. Priests heard, trembled, and hated. The people grew enthusiastic. Salvation by faith, not by works—forgiveness of sin, not by absolution, but by Christ; these were unheard of truths from such a pulpit, and were as welcome as they were strange. With sternness of manner he denounced the prevailing sins of the time, and with affectionate entreaty besought men, like another John the Baptist, to "repent, for the kingdom of heaven was at hand." Indeed, his prophetic utterances of a visitation from God were listened to with much dismay. His extraordinary faithfulness in rebuking those current sins of the wealthy to which they thought they had a prescriptive right; his personal form of address, without which no minister or reformer can hope to be successful in soul-winning; his clear evangelic utterances as to the natural state of the soul, its need of redemption, and the suitability of the free gospel of God's grace to meet that need, told upon the people. They wept. They were silenced. Men who took down his discourses, were known to drop the pens from their hands. Country people walked miles to hear the great preacher; came, indeed, the night before the Sunday, and besieged the church doors at early morn, that they might be sure of a seat. Rich burghers gave them victuals, and even acted as doorkeepers. The convent church was too small; nor could the cathedral accommodate more than the three thousand persons who flocked to hear the friar.

As prior of St. Mark, Savonarola was expected to pay homage to Lorenzo di Medici. He refused. In vain did Lorenzo seek to win the stern friar's confidence; he would loiter in the garden to attract his attention; money was given most royally to the poor; the sermons were heard; but all Lorenzo got in return was unsparing denunciation. Five men were sent to induce the friar to moderate his stinging criticisms, and to cease his prophetic utterances. "Go," was the stern answer, "and tell Lorenzo that he must repent of his sins, for God is about to punish him and his. He threatens me with banishment. Well, I am a foreigner, and he a citizen, and the first in the city; but know that I shall stay, and that he will soon be forced to quit." Strange to say, this declaration came true. Lorenzo the Magnificent lay on his death-bed. Anxious to be absolved from his sins, he sent for the monk, whom he had feared. Savonarola imposed three conditions. He was first to believe in God's ability and willingness to forgive; this the sick man confessed. Then he was to restore that which he had unrighteously gained. This duty he promised to perform by his heir. Thirdly, said Savonarola, "Give back to Florence her ancient liberty;" but Lorenzo turned his head away, and Savonarola departed.

After Lorenzo's death he addressed himself to the work of reformation. Beginning where reformation, as well as charity, should begin, at home, he renovated his convent, induced the monks to reform, to live higher lives, to study, and to preach. Next, he sought the reformation of the Florentine State. Henceforth he must become a politician. It is useless to criticise and condemn: he may have been fanatical, unwise, foolish. He, at least, did not think so. He had his dreams of an ideal government, and he lived to see them come true, though they hastened his fate. He preached on the downfall of the State; declared that soon the Lord's vengeance would come upon the Florentines; announced the termination of the great house of Medici; and predicted that "Over the Alps one is coming sword in hand against Italy to chastise her tyrants. His coming will be in the storm and in the whirlwind, like that of Cyrus." At the time, no one believed the warning voice of the strange prophet. The city was at peace; people were married and given in marriage, and the end came not. But lo! the King of France came over the Alps, with an immense army, took Naples, and marched into Florence. Then believed they the message of the friar. The Medici were expelled. Savonarola appeared before the King of France, secured peace, obtained milder terms; and the Florentines were allowed to choose their own mode of government. On the friar, however, was devolved this task. He chose the democratic form; but Jesus Christ was to be King of the city. A general amnesty was proclaimed, and the streets of Florence were thus saved from the deluge of blood which seemed inevitable. A contemporary writer states that "Apart from the Father's preaching, streams of blood would have been seen to flow in the city; but his words and his authority, which stood at that time very high, appeased the storm, and hindered the carrying out of revengeful thoughts."

It was marvellous how his power was felt. He was looked upon as a deliverer and a prophet. His words were treasured up, and were held as coming from God himself. His holy ascendancy was such that men everywhere saw it, felt it, were cowed under it, and not a few wished to be delivered from it. He waged relentless war against the sins of the rich, and denounced the vices of the poor. He changed for a time the character of society in the city. Dr. Seibert, in his biography, "Savonarola der Reformator von Florenz," describes the wondrous effect of the friar's teaching:—"Mortal enemies fell into each other's arms and became reconciled; the rich spontaneously restored ill-gotten gains: one citizen in particular made restitution of 3,000 ducats, the possession of which disquieted his conscience. Women renounced of their own accord their pride of dress, and went about in modest garments of drab. Ballads and love songs were heard no longer in the country, and religious singing took their place. In the city the theatres and taverns soon became empty and desolate, and in a short time cards and dice were no longer to be seen, vain pomp disappeared, all moral earnestness, and a wonderful degree of love and devotion to eternal things laid hold of the people." As one of his opponents said, "The people seemed to become fools from love to Christ." At the season of carnival men delivered up their dice, cards, and card-boards, scandalous images, and immoral novels, and women their rouge, scented waters, veils, false hair, mirrors—indeed, never before, and we fear never since, were women more self-sacrificing—all these luxuries were collected in the marketplace and burnt, youths singing in procession, round what has been called this "auto-da-fé of sin and worldly pleasures."

Besides improving the social condition of the poor, he endeavoured to reform the church. He never spared the priests—they were "the devil's midwives." Referring to the primitive church, he once said, "In those days they had a golden priest and wooden vessels, but now we have golden vessels and a wooden priest." But especially was he emphatic in his testimony to the preciousness of the Scriptures. "The ruin of the church," he said, "is to be traced to this, that Christians no longer read the Scriptures; it is owing to this that thick darkness broods over the Christian people, and that impiety gets so much the upper hand." He very imperfectly understood the Scriptures, but he was alone in demanding that they should be read, and their lessons taught to the people.

A man like Savonarola, it is needless to remark, must soon have aroused the enmity of the Papacy. It was no difficulty for him to find foes; they compassed him about like bees. They were principally of the order of the Franciscans, who always hated the order of which Savonarola was a member—the Dominican. News reached Rome of the terrible power and popularity of the friar. The Pope's first thought was to conciliate so dangerous a foe. He, therefore, offered him a cardinal's hat. But it was declined. "I wish," he said, "for no other red hat than that of a martyr, dyed with my own blood." It was equally in the power of the Pope to grant him that favour—for which, indeed, he felt most inclined. He was then respectfully and in a most fatherly way invited to show himself at Rome. "Beloved son! Health to thee, and apostolic benediction." But, as everyone knows, the Pope's blessing was always a curse, and in this case the blessing concealed—or only partly concealed—a power that would by penance, prison, or poison, reduce the friar to everlasting silence. Savonarola was not to be caught. He knew the man with whom he was dealing. The Pope was the incarnation of all the devilry that ever escaped from hell. An abandoned wretch, guilty of scandalous crimes—who could trust him? And so, wisely, the friar refused to go. He did not refuse, however, to fulminate against the Pope. He, too—like most of us—could issue his little bull from his diminutive Vatican. At last the Pope prohibited his preaching, and ordered that the congregation of St. Mark should be dissolved. Such elements were, however, not readily dissolved. Savonarola for a time maintained silence, but was stung into action by the Pope's Breve. "I cannot forbear preaching," he declared; "the word of God is as a fire in my heart; unless I speak it, it burns my marrow and bones." "It is now time," he said, "to open the den; we will turn the key; such a stench and so much filth will be vomited forth by Rome as will overspread all Christendom, and everybody will be tainted with it." At last the Pope applied to the Signori to deliver up this heretic; but it was in vain. Franciscan monks were sent to preach him down; but his preaching went up. Then it was, with his customary politeness, that the Pope sent a gracious message, hurling his curse at his head, cutting him off as a rotten member of the church's body, and giving him over to the powers of hell. Savonarola had his defenders in Florence, and those were among the wealthy as well as among the poor; but a host of circumstances were combining to ruin him. His friends were injudicious. His new state constitution was, as might be expected, a failure. His alliance with the King of France, who had done nothing for the church, damaged his popularity. Plague and famine irritated the people; and, as no miracle was wrought on their behalf, Savonarola was disliked. One of his friends foolishly put a controversy with the Franciscans upon the issue of a trial by the ordeal of fire. The fire was prepared in the marketplace of Florence; the citizens expected to behold a notable spectacle; but the Signori and a shower of rain interfered and dispersed the crowd. The mob then turned upon Savonarola; the monastery was assailed; the once popular monk was made a prisoner; and the Pope was communicated with. Overcome with joy, "His Holiness" granted permission for the monk to be tortured. A recantation was demanded of him, but he refused. He was then stretched seven times during the week upon the rack. In the height of his sufferings he cried, "Lord, take my spirit," and, worn out by the tortures, he agreed to confess. When, however, he had rested a while, he withdrew his recantation, and boldly avowed all that he had previously taught. Between the day of his trial and the day of his execution he wrote an exposition of the fifty-first Psalm, which Luther highly prized, and published in Germany.

He was burnt, with two friends, on the 22nd of May, 1498. The bishop deprived him of his priestly garments, saying, "Thus I exclude thee from the militant and triumphant church." "From the church militant thou mayst," exclaimed Savonarola, "but from the church triumphant thou canst not." He died blessing the people who had deserted him, and clinging to the Christ whose love had never departed from him.

The question has often been asked, How far was Savonarola the herald of Protestantism? The best answer to that question is, we think, furnished in his admirable work—far ahead of the times in which it was written—"The Triumph of the Cross." We are glad that those enterprising publishers, Messrs. Hodder and Stoughton have brought it out in a cheap and handsome form.3 For the sake of the memory of the martyr, it should be read; for the sake of the truths it so luminously sets forth, it deserves a wide circulation. Mr. Travers Hill, beside writing an interesting sketch of the Italian Reformer's life, has ably translated the work. At a time when the church held every one in bondage, when the Scriptures were hid from view, and the masses were ignorant of the way of salvation—when darkness covered the earth and gross darkness the people—when the church to which every one bowed in lowly submission was so corrupt as to allow a pope stained with every crime to preside over it—and when Luther's shrill testimony had not as yet been given—it is pleasant to find words of such evangelic power written in the cloister of a monastery. And though Savonarola was wedded to many of the errors of the church, yet his testimony in favour of justification by faith and not by works, the forgiveness of sins by Christ and not by man, was clear and decisive. His object was undoubtedly to purify the church of Rome, not to destroy it; but it is evident that throughout his life he was, if loyal to his church, far more loyal to Christ.

1. The First Vatican Council (1869-70) was about to get underway when Spurgeon wrote this article. Among the decrees of Vatican I was the notorious declaration of Papal Infallibility.
2. "Upas-tree." A fabled poisonous tree whose vapours were supposed to be fatal to all life that came under its influence.
3. The Triumph of the Cross by JEROME SAVONAROLA. Translated from the Latin, with Notes and a Biographical Sketch. By O'Dell Travers Hill, F.R.G.S. London: Hodder and Stoughton.


Subject: Savonarola
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:21:18 -0500

Dear WMFE,
I am writing with astonishment and amazement at what I have just wintessed on your public station.  You just finished informing me that the Godfather [organized crime] family of the Medici's were these wonderful people, and the one man who single handedly disassembled their king-pin rule of the city of Florence, to be nothing more than a derranged flagellate who lived in a dungeon?
I am unbelievably impressed with your willingness to indulge in revisionist history on behalf of the mafia.
Savanaroli was one of the greatest men who ever lived in history.  He single handedly defeated the mafia empire in the city of Florence, sucessfully and accurately prophesied the future of the city of Florence, and by all objective accounts was nothing short of a human phenomena who paid for his success with his own life as a martyr to a very very corrupt Papacy controlled by the same mafia.
The scene where Lorenzo himself asked for absolution from Savanaroli was completely distorted, and the message that was given to Lorenzo which is recorded in history, was not even mentioned.
How and why you would promote this trash is beyond my comprehension, all on behalf of a historical glorifaction of nothing more than the Italian mafia, who has plagued our own contry for many years.
Perhpas next you will do one on how great Hitler and the Klu Klux Klan really both were too.  
And another thing, you should start reading some history written outside the Vatican on some of these people and periods in history.  I cannot believe it. I am still in shock.
I am greatly distrurbed beyond words with your "offering" to the public.  You are conducting a disinformation campaign for a very corrupt cause.  I would have expected better from my own PBS station.
Italy today has one of the lowest "happiness" levels in all of Europe.  The reason cited is the presence of organized crime, descended from these same families you now here, on behalf of "educational" TV, have turned into the "hero of western civilization".
So you really think an America filled with the "family values" of the Sapranos is a "good thing"? How amazing.  I am tempted to insult you with something profane and vulger, but I think for anyone knowledgable about the period, you have done a fairly good job of that yourself already.

PS. One other little detail I'm sure your revision of Italian history will leave out for the general public...
Far from being a religious luny as your program depicted, Savaroli dismantled the facist governement of Florence run by the Medici crime family, and replaced it with a democratic republic, the basis of which became the model for western democracies during Reformation Europe.  The spearation of Church a State first proposed by Luther himself (who looked to this very period of history) and eventually embraced throughout modern Europe, and proposed by the BAPTIST Roger Williams in the American Colonies (who also looked to Savanarolis Republic, came from the success of the government of Florence established by the reformer Savanaroli.
He was not a "luny" as you portaryed him in your program, in fact his success in reforming a city at the very heart of the empire of organized crime throughout the world of the Middle Ages is unparalleled in history, even by today's standards.  Replacing fascist mafia government with a democratic republic is hardly the work of a "lunatic" and the fact you eclipsed this incredibly momentous accomplishment in western history with a glorifaction of a mafia mogul, is beyond understanding.
Flagellation was practiced by nearly all monks of the era, including the famous Augustinian monk Martin Luther, it was also a practice Savanaroli dropped, as did Luther and most others who bothered to read the New Testament.  Opus Dei still conducts the practice and of which, it has been reported Anthony Scalia is a member (which I do not know to be true).
Turning this hero of western history into a decriped Flagellant, in order to honor a mafia boss he challenged and over-came, replacing facism with republican democracy, without the slighest hint of these facts, behind this horrible distortion, is beyond excuse for a PBS station. 



"THERE IS REALLY NO SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE, ONLY A PILE OF STONES here and a pile of stones there" -Educational Secretary Benette, "Church and State" April 1997, - State Wall TIME Sept. 16, 1991 Cover Story p. 58 (Supreme Court to reconsider a key ruling on church-state seperation The Philadelphia Inquirer Jan. 18, 1997 Breaching the Church)

"Religious liberty is merely endured until the opposite can be carried into effect without peril to the Catholic Church." -Bishop O'Conner of Pittsburg.


"If Catholics ever gain sufficient numerical majority in this country, religious freedom is at an end. So our enemies say; so we believe" -The Shephard of the Valley, journal of the late bishop of St. Louis.

"A sound view of the Constitution in its relation to religion probably awaits a change in personnel in our highest tribunal." -The Register, Jan. 23, 1955.  Confusion Twice Confounded, Monsignor Joseph H. Brady: U.S. Supreme Court is wrong in decisions regarding "seperation of Church and State." 


"But Constitutions can be changed, and non-Catholic sects may decline to such a point that the political proscription [ban] of them may become feasible and expedient. What protection would they have against a Catholic state?" -The State and the Church, pp.38,39, by Miller and Ryan, imprimatur of Cardinal Hayes.


When John Paul Stevens retired from the court in June, he asserted in an interveiw with USA Today a need for religious diversity among the nine justices. Stevens, late in his tenure, had been the lone remaining Protestant. Sandara Day O'Conner, an Episcopalian, made similiar remarks when she stepped down in 2006. - Associated Press

Despite being placed into power with the promise to Protestant "Conservatives" they would "outlaw abortion" and enforce their own heretical doctrines of TRADUCIANISM as FEDERAL LAW on all America despite the electoral and legislative process specified by the U.S. Constitution, one of the first things this monolithic ROMAN-CATHOLIC court did was not "outlaw abortion" but "outlaw American freedom from compulsory Christ-Mass laws"?   The empty promise of Rome's own heretical TRADUCIANIST laws, remain untouched by the same court installed by the RELIGIOUS-REICH to force American women to give birth to rape-babies and living vegetables even if they were to die in child-birth, like women had to do under the rule of the Papacy in the middle-ages.

Depsite the promises to return America to the age of Inquisitions and witchtrials, the Supreme court was not quite as eager to go down in history responsible for the over-night change, despite it's Vatican loyalties. 

But the question of whether or not there is even a single Protestant on a Supreme court that rules a country in which 70% of it's population is Protestant is not simply an accident. Nor is it simply bigotry or prejudice to complain aobut it, as both John Paul Stven and Sandra Day O'Conner both did.

It fact, it is actually a failure of leadership. And a negligence that no American should be guilty of, even if they are not a "Protestant".  Why, because the absence of this kind of diversity is signaling a "change" in dominant political philosophy as well.  And that change requires the absence of a Protestant on the Supreme court. And that "change" may not be the kind of "change" any American would really like to see.


There are some incredibly important, and potentially dangerous issues the absence of a single Protestant on the Supreme Court evidenced as by this public policy.  When dealing with the engineers of the Reich, it needs to be remembered that nothing is ever what they tell you it is because lying is what they think is  the "smart" thing to do, and they always want to approach these issues in the "smartest" way possible (which means to them lying).

So consequently, the thing is never about the thing, you see and hear, it is virtually always about something else, they will not discuss with you, because you are the very thing they are "over-coming".  The thing they ARE talking about with you, is the thing they wish to simply USE, to get you to act in the way, they want you to act. "Abortion" was one of those things.  Now to the field soldier of the Religious-Reich, willing to give up his life in prison for killing an abortion doctor or blowing up an abortion clinic or threatening on the internet all day to bash someone in the head who disagrees with them, think it was all in fact about abortion, just as he had been programmed to think.   But that's what has been done to him.

To his political controllers, socially engineering his behavior, it wasn't about abortion at all, abortion was simply THE TOOL used to get what they actually wanted, but couldn't ask "conservatives" to outright give it to them.  In other words, if you want a Vatican controlled Supreme Court, how do you get it? Walk into Baptist churches in Georgia and ask them to vote to turn over the U.S. Supreme to the Vatican? Of course not.  You focus on a topic that is peculair to Roman Catholic doctrine, carry it into "conservative Churches", and ask them to select ONLY "Supreme Court Judges" that "believe it". (Which of course, does functionally the same thing as walking into their Churches and asking them to turn over their Supreme Court without having to say it)

Why does the Vatican want the U.S. Supreme court? Because their "job" in our system of government is to "interpet" the Constitution.  Meaning that by law, our US Supreme court descides what the 1st Amendment "means".  Actually, anyone with basic English skills can read the first amendment and see what it "means". They can even use a dictionary from that era and get very technical with every word, and see what it "means".  The whole reason it was written down is so that Americans would KNOW.  Not to hide it from them and make it obscure.

But reguardless of what is written on the Constitution, if the US Supreme court says it isn't there, it functionally isn't there.  Opposite-speak can be applied to anything, even by courts.

If you look at what the RELIGIOUS-REICH installed onto the Supreme court, you will find that while 6 justices are Roman, 3 are Jewish.  The diversity of at least 3 Jewish justices gives "comfort" to the "Evangelical" pro-Israel side of the Religious-Reich that might be tempted to object to a full 9 justice Roman court, because they believe Rome isn't committed to Israel.  

But there is something that is missed in all this by everyone when discussing this issue over why not a single Protestant is now on the Supreme court?  And the answer to that question is found in Theology.  What does Orthodox and Conservative Rabbinical Judaism have in common with Roman Cahtolicism? Neither body of theologies affirm Separation of Church and State, in fact, both systems are antithetical to it.  So what that means is that the US Supreme Court has been "stocked" completely with 100% of Justices that come from backgrounds where there is NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.  Viola.  The point of our current Supreme court. No representaiton (not one) of a single justice committed by virtue of their Theology, to SEPARATON OF CHURCH AND STATE.  AND CONSERVATIVE PROTESTANTS GAVE IT TO THEM!!!

Once again, you have to admire the intelligence of the Vatican in how it works, and also lament at the vast stupidty of Protestants in this country and the bumbling idiots we have, either been tricked and deceived into thinking are our "leaders", or actually "chose' through the collective ignorance of popular demand and financial donations?  It's really pitiful.  Unfortunately, all Americans will suffer the consequences of their stupidity.

The idea that because there are "a lot" of something in the country, therefore it doesn't matter if you "exclude them" is current political doctrine, and while that might be irritating, most Protestants are magnanimous to understand why sometimes this way of thinking is a pragmatic balance to issues of diversity, even if it is not necessarily the most tactful way to put it.  And it is not the "lack of diversity" that is as troubling as the "monolithic uniformity" that has been installed here.

When Sam Donaldson was asked if it mattered that there were none despite being a majority in the country, his attempts at being diplomatic were offered without any appearant real awareness of why this was a problem to begin with.  Unlike with race for example, you might have a person of one race who is "conservative" and one of another race who is a "liberal", and they despite their mutual label, will create a "difference of opinion".  But both a "liberal" Roman Catholic and a "conservative" Roman Catholic share in a belief as part of their self-identity, that they are to submit to the Vatican (for their salvation) and the Pope is God, and also share the belief (in theology) in the "error" or "sin" of "Separation of Church and State" by virtue of their Religion.

Sam Donaldson was correct in this sense however, if the entire court was stocked with a Baptist who didn't believe in Separation of Church and State, along with a Presbyterian, and a Methodist and a Charismatic, and 6 Episcopalians (all from the Religious-Reich), it wouldn't matter if the whole court were Protestant, they still would have NO DIVERSITY, because the 1 issue that needed an opposing opinion would STILL not be represented in decisions.  And historically speaking NO EVANGELICAL ON THE COURT, despite all 9 wearing the "label".  Political games are often played this way, Judge Thomas being a prime example.  Internet slang has developed calling these people "sock puppets".  Their just a "sock" with someone else's hand moving the mouth.

If the US Supreme court had 9 Roman Catholics who shared John F. Kennedy's commitment to American historical tradition, it would be perfectly fine if all 9 were Roman Catholics (although still really odd and perhaps evidence of a social problem).  But never-the-less the commitment to the 1 issue that mattered, and particularly those protected by the Separation of Church and State in the First Amendment, would in the end be THE ISSUE, not what "label" they might be wearing on the surface, including that of Roman-Catholic.


The photo of John Hagee "apologizing" for teaching historic Protestant doctrine in his own Church, while Will Donahue sits on top of 1500 curses pronounced on Protestants without apology, is a prime example of how these systemic policies are enforced by the Vatican in the United States.  John Hagee was compromised and cowardice enough to actually give him an "apology" (for what is actually in the Bible) and he still "lost".  If Hagee was teaching the Scripture, he should have asked Donahue to first publicly denounce the Scriptures, for which Hagee could then publicly "apologize" for teaching... in his own Church.

So why not a single Protestant justice on the Supreme court? Not even one? Beyond the obvious Religious-Reich agenda to restore the Roman-Reich, using America as either it's platform or puppet-state?   Why isn't there say 1 or 2 or 3 judges who ARE Protestant/Evangelical, and who do agree with the RELIGIOUS-REICH.  They couldn't find a single one? The country is full of Protestants who are willing to sell out their own historical heritage, so there should be no trouble in finding one for the Court, so why are there none? Not even one willing to sell out his country and constitution for these people?  All you have to do is turn on a TV on Sunday morning and you can see "sell outs" by the hundreds of thousands that wear the label?

The answer to this question is troubling as well, although not nearly as troubling as the monolithic representation concerning the First Amendment.  There is in America today, a form of discriminatory institutionalized classism that has been instituted that is being applied against Protestants on every level and in every sphere, from Politics to Business to the Legal profession to the Corporate career ladder.  It is evidenced continually if one begins to actually look at it.  And demonstrations of it's systemic presence can be created in virtually any and every professional field one might wish to examine.

The idea that just because something is "plentiful", therefore it is not "discriminated against" is a "myth". The "majority' of the population in Rome were "Slaves".  They were excluded and even after becoming "freemen" they were kept out of powerful positions of authority in Rome.  They were kept down as a class of people even after gaining their freedom.  The same thing happened in America after slavery was abolished here.

There are plenty of "poor" people in America. How many in the US Congress?  We have a "system" that by definition eliminates them from office.  It also eliminates them from many other things in society besides just "political office".  How many famous American "religious leaders" are "poor"? None.  By definition we have a social system that eliminates a poor person from being an influential "religious leader". This discrimination is logistical and mechanical thus the word "systemic".

First he must "go to college" and spend thousands of dollars at a private parochial school to get a "degree" to be a "minister", just to enter the door.  Then he either needs a graduate degree, that's even more money by the tens of thousands.  Or he needs a "Big Church" (one that only lots of money could build).  And he has to first submit an application to even be "accepted", and if you've ever filled one of those out you know at all the things they look at focused primary on the level of "esteem" you held in by influential people, your grades in High School, etc.  There are so many things that make it almost impossible for a "poor" person to even get there to begin with. It's a "System" designed to keep them out. He couldn't even simply write a "book". Why? Because book publishing is dirven by celebrity. You have to first have a pre-made "audience" to buy your book, before book publishers will usually even fool with it.  Their in business to make money, and poor people have none.

The same kind of mechanical discrimination has now been created, AND is being ENFORCED in America against Protestant/Evangelicals right in front of your eyes daily.  It begins as early as elementary school, with a Public School system that spends half it's time "celebrating" Catholic "Saint Days" in public Schools. Saint Valentines? Saint Patrick? Halloween? Christmas? These are all Catholic "holy days".  And these have been enmeshed into our "schools" on purpose.  This kind of thing continues all the way through the system from the bottom of it, all the way to it's highest levels in the boardrooms of America's largest corporations.

Tell your boss you are not going to the "Christmas" office party because you are not a Catholic, and see what happens to your career?  Watch how many times "Christmas" is brought up in family court cases, and who the judge will award "custody" of a child to? It's all over the place in every part of our society and it get's away without ever being criticized or challenged.  By Protestants!

When discussing this issue with others in the corporate world, several stories from unrelated companies and different sources, were shared.  A clear "pattern" began to emerge of something they had not wanted to admit to themselves.  All of the key positions in these companies were held by Catholics, and they were promoting only Catholics under them, despite the founders or even owners of the corporations not having been Catholic.  In fact, before positions were granted, they were asked to attend Catholic church?

When you look at the NBA or the NFL, you used to (and still do) see something odd.  In the past this was much more true than today, but you still can see the residual effect.  Basketball team after Basketball team in a tournament. Nearly all the players are "African-American" and nearly all the "Coaches" are "White"?  You used to see it in the NFL too.  Despite the fact that a "majority" of all the players (and not only knew the game, but played it), yet were completely absent as "Coaches".

The idiotic excuses racists came up to excuse and explain that discrepancy were things like, well "their too dumb to be coaches", etc.  This kind of garbage was being said all the way up until the time of Tony Dungy, the first African-American coach to win the Superbowl.  After him, African-American coaches began to be seen in the NFL.

But there reason there were none prior, is because THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO BE.  Despite the fact they made up "the majority" of Athletes in the NBA and the NFL.  So just because there is a "majority" of something, does not mean it's presence is not be "discriminated against" in the "chain of command" by what is "controlling" and "financing" it.  The absence of a single Protestant on the U.S. Supreme court, is evidence of this "systemic" trend in our society, created and installed by the "Reich" itself.  The "buyout" of American companies, European/Japanese ownership, and relocation of corporate and manufacturing assets to Catholic countries are all being intentionally conducted for these purposes, and Protestants have no clue what is even being done to them.

The Vatican has played a better game clearly, and there is no one to blame but the pied-pipers idiots that have been called our "religious leaders" in this country.  Protestants and Evangelicals have been "following" the wolves to their own destruction in America.  And while they are getting what they deserve for it, the entire rest of the country is going to suffer too because of it, though having had nothing to do with it.

If you don't stand up for yourself and your faith,
For your own rights and religious freedoms in your own country,
Nobody else is going to do it for you.
And you will be left with none.

That's the Religious-Reich's plan for  you.
And that's why they told John Hagee to shut up and sit down. 
(Though taking all his votes in Texas)


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Most Christians, not only in America, but throughout the world are completely unaware of a very large segment of social and Church history, which gave rise to some of the largest American Christian denominations now on earth.  And while many of these organizations today do many good, charitable and decent things for humanity, and there are many sincere Christians in them, they are completely unaware of a very significant and important difference that lay at the foundational base of many of these groups.  The reason is that like Rome's Solar-Mass to Apollyon now called a "Christ" mass, it is an unpleasant, ugly and therefore suppressed history. [Intentionally hidden or "re-constructed" in order to spin-doctor] Which is unfortunate. Consequently what you are about to read will be denied and contradicted with minutia, but it doesn't matter what they tell you.  This can be patched together in any public library, all you have to do is draw a line between the dots of known history and personal observation and testimony, and you will see the truth begin to emerge.

There were three different groups in American Protestant Christianity.  The first were, Biblical separationists who were after the manner of the New England Protestants, and worked to craft the words of our U.S. Constitution that separated "Church and State", which historically was much more of a concern to the Protestants than it was the Masons.  The second were Protestant collaborators which were what would become "valladolid catholics", who worked with Rome to conduct the early Jesuit slave-trade. And the third were the Freemasons, who were at the time, also targets of persecution by Rome, and thus while not collaborators on some moral or theological grounds, generally separated out of necessity and logistics.  These three groups had different frameworks for viewing the world, and America's relationship in it toward Rome. Masons wanted to create a rival Rome that would take the esoteric occultism from Rome, and create a counter to it (as an "opposite").  Rome wanted to be the "Holy Roman Empire" and the Masons wanted to be the "New Secular Order" (It's exact opposite, yet the same).  Collaborators wanted to create a working partnership with Rome out of economic motives. And separationists wanted simply to be free from Rome, somewhere, some place on earth. (Like the original Pilgrims as refugees to Plymouth)

In the beginning of the country, their differences emerged at the Constitutional convention, arguing over the role of slavery and it's relationship to the Constitution. The separationists (who also rejected slavery) wanted it outlawed.  The Masons and the Collaborators wanted it either left alone, or included by law.  The 2/3 majority won, but they compromised with the separatists, and slavery was left alone, neither included or outlawed.  But these three beginnings spawned three very different roads for religion to tread in America.  They were the seeds of three different "spirits", and they would throughout the history of America future, remain always consistent with their origins.

(1) The Secret society religion of the Masonic organizations (called "Christian" by way of assimilation)  [Christmas]
(2) The Valladolid catholicism of the Southern agrarian plutocracy.                                                     [Christmas]
(3) The Biblical separationism of the New England Protestants.                                                           [No Christmas]

Virtually all American Protestant "Christianity" finds it's seeds of origins in these three groupings of theology.

And the fourth presence in America (which was not Protestant, but present) was
(4) The Roman Catholicism of the Vatican itself (which did have presence in the colonies)                     [Christmas]


What is Valladolid catholicism?  Valladolid refers to the point in history at which Rome held a "Debate".  This "debate" is referred to as THE VALLADOLID DEBATE.  Historians for the Vatican spin-doctor this debate as a great achievement in human rights, critics say it was nothing more than a historical documented instance of the actual continuing policy of the Vatican.  It is a glass half empty and half full, and so was it's outcome, on this most agree on and admit.  The central question of the debate was whether or not non-white conquered people "had souls" or were they "the beasts of the field". A catagorey of Sub-human animal species in between Apes and White men.

It is claimed that at these debates, the Vatican decided in favor of the conquered aboriginals having "souls", thereby they could rightfully be forced to convert to Roman Catholicism, but if they had no souls, then such would be no more appropriate to "convert them" than making "Christian monkeys".  It was an attempt in reality to settle a fight between Rome's merchant slaver traders and Rome's missionary priests.  One group wanted their to exploit and consume their souls, the other group wanted to exploit and consume their bodies. The mercantile consumption of their bodies was getting in the way of the priests intent on consuming their souls, so the slave merchants (who wanted them to be seen as strictly animal) were having a conflict with the Priests (who wanted seem as spiritual) and the Vatican itself was getting confused by the conflict (why couldn't they "theologically" just decide they were "animal" but also "human" thus enjoying the benefits of both, sort of an "inferior human"?).  And this is the question Rome sought to resolve. (By having a show down between the two arguments and make a decision which has priority for the "Vatican") This was done at Valladolid, Spain.

The real history of what came out of these debates, much like the truth about Pope Sixtus III, has been suppressed because of embarrassment, and severely "doctored" for PR reasons.  But here are some observations which can be made fairly conclusively, based on factually documented known history, which came from Rome's own behavior afterwards.

While Rome may "claim" to the world (especially today) that these debates resulted in the Vatican's "recognition" of the humanity of conquered aboriginals, that is not exactly what came out of Valladolid, Spain through it's priests to the New World, and in particular to the Plantation owners, and their slave-port cities in the south where the Jesuit slave trade brought in thousand upon thousands of slaves to be sold as cattle, and much of the money, from which, went straight into the Vatican's coffers, as Jesuits had taken monastical vows.  

Slavery was an extremely profitable activity for the Vatican, and for which it was criticized profusely in Protestant countries (some of whom were guilty of the slave trade as well).  Disgust over excesses conducted by the Vatican in the slave trade (and jealousy of it's success), caused European Protestants to become increasingly zealous in criticizing the practice in Rome while it still existed among themselves.  Protestant clergymen saw the opportunity to strike a major PR blow to Rome and at the same time rid themselves of something almost all even in Rome (despite it's own slave racketeering)  viewed with disgust.  English Protestants, made the constant criticism and embarrassment of Quakers in London, eventually outlawed the practiced, before Rome, and later used the criticism against Rome, to make converts out of her own offended Catholics.

This was all occurring around the same time America was being founded. Consequently, the more the "Protestant" orientation of the early figures in American history (such as John Adams), the more inclined they were to be critical of Slavery (and of Rome).    The more Masonic or Valladolid the orientation, the more likely they were willing to collaborate with Rome, and wink or excuse it's practice of Slavery.  (Such as Thomas Jefferson with the Masons, and Calhoun with the Valladolids)

Quakers, General Baptists, Methodists, Plymouth Brethren, etc., all rejected slavery and it's racism.  In fact, the Baptists became so adamant about it, they excommunicated their fellow Baptists in the south. It is claim "southern Baptists" started before this excommunication, but if they had already gotten started, why were they "excommunicated"? Their PRIOR EXISTENCE was AS members of the AMERICAN BAPTIST CONVENTION.  The "names" were "in existence", but the Southern Baptist Convention, as a separate and distinct CHURCH, was NON-EXISTENT!  Not until AFTER they were EXCOMMUNICATED.  Regardless either way, they were still "excommunicated", and that is the point.  "Baptists" recognized that what was going on in the SOUTH, was NOT BAPTIST.  And in fact, it was so ALIEN to BAPTIST, that they felt COMPELLED TO EXCOMMUNICATE IT (AS NON-CHRISTIAN).  So what were these APOSTATES in the SOUTH WORSHIPING? AND CALLING CHRIST?

Only 4 years prior to their EXCOMMUNICATION, Alabama, became the first State in America, to pass compulsory CHRISTMAS LAWS, and make the Worship of Rome's Image, official government policiy. (SOUTHERN 'BAPTISTS" HAD BEEN INFILTRATED AND TAKEN OVER BY JESUIT VALLADOLID CATHOLICISM, BEEN GIVEN OVER TO IT'S DEVIL WORSHIP)

In return Southerners, had their own Baptist "convention" which accepted "slavery" and this was held in common with the Masons, thus creating a bridge between these two.  That is why later in history, Masons became much more involved with the "Southern Baptist Convention" than they did with the "General Baptist Convention".  Most older Southern Baptists of any age, can easily bear witness of this fact and remember their own encounters with Masons, and the involvement of many of their ministers with the Masons, in their Churches.  And this is why.

Masons had slaves, Southern Valladolids had slaves, New England Protestants denounced it.  Masons did Christmas, Southern Valladolids did Christmas, New England Protestants denounced it. And these two things were intimately connected.

The Jesuits brought the theology of the Valladolid debates (which had been systematically put together for the debate!) to the Plantation owners in the south, as a way to "help" the Plantation owners reconcile their "Christian faith" with the foul practice of trafficking in slavery.  Jesuits didn't care if it was "offical doctrine" of Rome or not because they were passing it on to "heretics" anyway. And so the very doctrines of sub-humanization in reference to "natural law" from Valladolid Spain were "shared" and "spread" throughout the south among it's ruling families and aristocracy.  These doctrines became institutionalized in their circles as "Christianity" and part of the unofficial (or secret) "theology" of many Churches in the south, that needed the "Apologetics" of Valladolid theology, to justify their involvement with slavery, against the criticisms of Protestants in the north.

The primary claim of Valladolid theology was that conquered aboriginals (non-white, non-European) people were the "beasts of the field".  Consequently, "inter-marriage" was an outrageously offensive idea, similiar to being "married' to a "cow" or a "dog" (an immoral crime).  Reproducing with a non-white, non-European was giving birth to what was called "a mongrel baby" and an "abomination" of going after "strange flesh".  These textual constructs can be remembered by older southerners by any over the age of 55 or 60 they heard when they themselves were young, and talking to elderly white southerners.  These things were never preached openly in respectable Church services because it was considered a "secret" or "taboo" but it was taught, and repeated continually in the Valladolid catholic church in the south, which went by the names "Baptist" or "Presbyterian" or "Methodist" (with the word "southern" in front to distinguish it)

Why was it Valladolid "catholicism" and not just plain "Baptist" or just plain "Presbyterian"?   Because despite the labels they bore for example as "Southern Baptists" these Baptists had been "excommunicated" and they weren't "real Baptists" anymore.  Their theology concerning racism and slavery had come from the arguments used in the Valladolid debates, in Valladolid Spain, and been given them by Jesuit Slave traders in southern slave port cities where Catholicism itself was the dominant religion, and where these things were taught.  In other words this was sort of a "hybrid" religion, part Protestant and part catholic with a small "c".

Valladolid catholicism (as a Protestant religion) not only differed in the fact it "accepted" Jesuit slave trade theology that justified the practices of slavery, it accepted Rome's "Latin Fathers" as well.  General Baptists were not so inclined to be remotely interested in Rome, nor it's "fathers", they wanted to get as far away from Rome as they could get.  They were "purists" or "separationists".  And while they didn't mind being good students of history, they had no particular affinity to 4th century Latins and their theologies.

In the South, Valladolid catholicism as a new "hybrid" between traditional Baptist and Catholic, was different in this regard as well.  Valladolid catholicsm had embraced the concept of a "secret order" in imitation of the work of the Jesuits. Conspiracy theorists might even argue (they were "started by the Jesuits") but that wouldn't be true.  There was however, a very close connection.  Both culturally, and economically.  And the "idea" of a "secret order" as "Christian" was derived from the Latin fathers who "appealed to it" whenever they got stuck with no valid explanation. This is even found with Augustine ( who was not "orthodox" as they attempt to pass him off as, in fact, he was extremely heretical )

Valladolid catholicism, became a "syncretistic" form of Protestantism that had a hidden tradition of "esoteric" theology (secret society) Masonry integrated into it as well. So the 2 critical components that traditonal baptists in the north had rejected as "unchristian" and "Demonic" became "institutionalized" among the "Southern Baptists".  Along with Masonry and Valladolid catholicism, and certainly as a very important central part of the "secret theology" of the Empire's "sun-worship" was of course... Christmas.

And because of these three elements, brought together in the Southern Baptists (and Methodists, and Presbyterians) [there are "southern" versions/conventions/councils for all of them], it was natural to find that Alabama, (also the heart of Dixie) and the heart of the Jesuit Slave trade out of Mobile&New Orleans, was the first to establish it's "Christmas" as compulsory state law.  The northern Baptists, considered these southern Baptists full blown apostates headed for hell.(they also rejected both slavery and Christmas, and anything else from Rome including it's "fathers")

Even though everyone was using the same set of (Christian) vocabulary words, their definitions of what they actually meant by these same words, were as different as night and day.  In the north, accepting Christ made you "free", in the south accepting Christ made you "right".  Christ died to set all men "free" in the north, but in the south, Christ died to make men "right", not "free".  Christ's kingdom was egalitarian in the north, Christ's kingdom was "imperial" in the south. In the north Christ brought equality to all men, in the south, he brought authority and obedience to it. Same words.  The differences were so great that northerners tried to make "converts" among the southerners, attacking their apostate practices of compromise, in defense, southerners developed Valladolid catholicism to justify their practices.  

The "economics" of these two different theological systems were vastly different as well.  In the valladolid versions, Plutocracy was "divine order". The Aristocracy were "God's chosen". Subjugation and enslavement of "the common masses", "divine right".  Religious "compulsion" (imperialism) part of their "Great commission".  In the Free-church, these things were a "return to Papacy" (Romanism, a/k/a the "whore of Babylon", the "antichrist"), a violation of the "priesthood of every Believer", the "law of Christ", the "great apostasy" and "great delusion", and a repudiation of the "gospel" itself.  And naturally, the Luciferian worship of Apollyon as "Christ", was a major disagreement as well.  In the Valladolid church, it was "the secret" to be known by the "ruling elites", in the Free-church, it was the worship of the "Sun", the "lake of fire", the "delusion", and yes, Apollyon. (The counterfeit of the real "Christ"), the imposture.  The real "deity" of the "antichrist". In fact, most today do not even know that the term "Bah, Hum Bug", actually means "a deception", a "a fraud", an "imposture"!  This was the very theology "Charles Dickens" was being used as a "propagandist" to assault and destroy in England and America. (By Valladolids and Masons)

In England the Puritans had been defeated, the Monarchy had been restored to powered, but Puritan theology still had a presence among Protestants in England.  In order to counter their teachings on compromise with Rome, and in particular, their refusal to support government sponsored compulsory Christmas laws, Charles Dickens comes to the rescue with his work "The Christmas Carol" using the new "science" of "Mesmerism".  The hype was made with Dicken's story that it was so powerful with "Mesmerism" it would entrance it's audiences and "convert them" into Christmas keepers in one setting.  So the British Monarchy promoted his work in England, to clean up the remnants of Puritan theology still hanging around bothering everyone's conscience. It was one of the earliest examples (and successes) of government using "mind control" on it's population. The government was intentionally using what IT believed to be in it's own thinking, "mind-control" on it's population, in order to manipulate them into doing "Christmas" (or in other words "snuff out" the Evangelicals).  A precedent was set in the Western world, for government sponsored "propaganda" and "mind-control technique", to be used on it's own population to herd them mindlessly into Christmas, against their own theological frame-works (and it worked).  

In fact, it worked so well, that in 1843, Charles Dickens was sent to America, to do the same thing over here to American audiences as well.  This kind of use of "government propaganda" later became the inspiration for Hitler's "Nazi Propaganda" who originally simply imitated (and vastly improved on it) England's use of it with Dickens.

1 year later, after Dicken's blasphemy successfully staturated America, and result in new "state-sponsored" compulsory Christmas laws in America, red tides begin to appear off the coast of America's shores (and have continued unabated every year since). (See "The Scrooge", "The Ghost of Divine Judgement")  Almost as an omen of blood to come, less than 20 years later the worst war in American history began, and it was all about the conflict between historic Protestantism, that rejected slavery and Christmas, and Valladolid catholicism in the south uniting the Vatican with Southern plantation owners. 

The Vatican promised arms, supplies and military assistance from France if the South would secede.  Which it did, only to find out that promises form the Vatican went unfulfilled.  The south was not only defeated, it was decimated.  And Protestant southerners felt betrayed by the Vatican. Intense Anti-Catholic feelings arose among Southern Protestants as a result, and during this same time frame, a group of southern Masons, steeped in the theology of Valladolid Catholicism met together in 1865, in a secret occult ritual ON CHRISTMAS EVE, patterned after the Roman Catholic Church of the Valladolid debates, began the Knights of the Klu Klux Klan.  So important was in the influence of Rome's Valladolid theology, they adopted as their official dress, the very liturgical dress of Roman-Catholic Monks from Valladolid, Spain, the birthplace of their foul, demonic and Antichrist doctrines of demons.  And naturally once again, "Christmas" was at the very center of it.

The Klu Klux Klan worked as a more militant and scandalous arm of the more "elite" upper class, southern Masons in the south.  Jokes were told that if you could not "get accepted" into the "Masons" , they send you voer to the Klan, recognizing the similarity and connection of organization between the two.

Masonic President Woodrow Wilson, later went so far as to romanticize the role of the "Klan" in the "South" as "defenders" of the "white southerner" against chaos and anarchy in post Civil-War culture.  A line virtually every southern little boy was told growing up in the south, ... and line told about a racist terrorist Jesuit Assassin organization that quietly and secretly murdered people and corrupted entire police departments in every southern city, across America.  And southerners to this day, have no knowledge of it's historic ties to the Jesuit slave-trade, and erroneously think because of the intense "Anti-Catholic" rhetoric of the SECOND CONSTITUTION OF THE KLAN, that the Klan had nothing to do with Rome. And nothing could have been farther from the truth.  The KLAN WAS ROME.  The grunts under the hoods simply had no idea who had originally pulled their string, with a theology systematically put together and committed to writing, in the very city from which their own hooded garments had descended. Valladolid, Spain.

During the 1800s, many upheavals were taking place across the country.  Along with the importation and popularization of Valladolid catholicism spawning the southern Protestants in Churches such as the "Southern Baptists",. another group began which combined the two hottest theologies of the day "esoteric Masonry" and "Valladolid catholicism" into a single new synthesis.  This new synthesis was called the "Mormon Church".

Joseph Smith, the premier "prophet" of Mormonism, had a vision and found a book, allegedly written in a secret Egyptian language,  which he magically understood and translated, that told the "secret history" of a whole lot of things that factually never happened. Some provable, some simply a matter of speculation. But beyond the treatment of history as religious fantasy, were the very imprtant theological innovations that Joseph Smith proposed in his new religion, which were rather entertaining ideas intellectually for people who enjoyed "secret society" religion of the Masons, and the "secret society" religion of the Klan's Valladolid catholicism (merged now into one new exciting volume) called "The Book Of Mormon", "A New Revelation Of Jesus Christ", i.e., (a new racist mythology from Apollo impersonating the Jewish New Testament "Christ"... again)  Joseph Smith thought he would attempt to duplicate the occult/deception/mythology accomplishments of Constantine, and lead America into a new "Holy Roman Empire", this time out of Utah, rather than Rome or Constantinople.

Mormonism has been described as the one of the most racist theologies ever compiled and many of it;s doctrines are found, lifted right from the standard body of theology echoed throughout the south by southern Valladolid catholics.  The "curse of Ham" was the black man.  They were "black" because they were 'evil".   They were a "race" of sub-humans destined to be "slaves" by virtue of their inferiority.  White people were the "seed of Christ", and black people were the "seed of the serpent".  Although like other Valladolid groups espousing Rome's old theology, Mormons "repented" a few years ago (literally, just a few year ago).  As late as the 1970s blacks were not allowed to be Mormon clergy because of their "curse".  They made a few policy adjustments and pretended as though nothing happened, the president of the Mormon Church referring to their century of prior history, stating to CBS, Dan Rather, that "that's behind us now, don't worry about those little flicks of history". A little flick? He called it.

Having incorporated both the sun-worship of the Masons and the sun-worship of Valladolid catholicism, Mormonism had a double-whammy of lake of fire worship.  Their portraits of "Jesus" to this day consists of a comical blonde Anglo-Saxon walking in clouds with a Marilyn Monroe effect on his "Cape" blowing in the wind.  Very inspiring if you are a former Klansmen.  They, as the Southern Baptist, are completely unrepentent, about worshiping Apollyon, the devil, because admitting the error in their history, admits to many other things aobut who they are, where they have come from, and what their religions really are, that simply cannot be emotionally dealt with for many, nor desired to be dealt with by most. (Who are farely certain now that worshiping Apollo as Christ, even if it is really Apollo (meaning the lake of fire) really doesn't "affect one's salvation" not really, otherwise ....otherwise... nah it just can't be.  The lie is much more pleasant than the truth. Ask any African-American who is familar with their history, if they thought these people were worshiping the devil and probably died and went to hell, you would probably hear not a "yes", but a smile of gratitude, and a "Oh hell yeah", as their answer.  Because that's what the truth actually is, and the truth they have had to live with their whole lives, and pretend they did not know.

New England Protestantism had experienced a number of "revivals" and "burn outs" and the intellectualist culture of New England Protestantism was beginning to give way to new form of "liberalism" out of Germany, which called into question the validity of the Bible itself, a theology known as "higher criticism".  New England Protestantism, with it's emphasis on "education" and "knowledge" became an easy target, but the theology effectively pulled the plug on New England Protestant zeal for the Scriptures and Christian orthodoxy.  After suffering the disappointment, that everything you ever thought was a lie, much of New England Protestant begin to quietly fade away into the sun set.

To counter this effect, a movement was birthed out of Princeton University called "fundamentalism".  Which was a call to return to the "fundamentals" of the Christian faith, spelled out by a University Professor of religion.  Far from revitalizing New England Protestantism, the "Fundamentalism" movement out of Princeton University, became the final nail in it's coffin. With one stroke, New England Protestantism became Solomon's baby cut in two pieces, "liberal" and "conservative", and the polarity would never be healed.

Liberals began doing Christmas because none of it was literally true anyway (as a result of the temporary belief in the validity of higher criticism) and conservatives began doing Christmas because "fundementalism" became extremely popular in the south, as a tool against "New England liberalism". Christmas established in the south with southern Protestants through Valladolid catholicism, established in the north with liberalism's falling away, and established in the west through the Mormons.  And now, the stage was set to begin establishing Christmas not only as compulsory federal law, but institutionalizing it's rituals into government and public life, as a form of "progressive elimination" against all remaining Christmas dissenters.

And today, the "bulwark" of the "Christmas war" culture warriors, are coming from Southern evangelicalism, descendant of Valladolid catholicism, Mormonism (the integration of Valladolid catholicism and Masonry) and the Vatican.  The same alliances it has had throughout history. From the civil war, right up until the Nazis in the 1930s, who also required the state compulsion of Christmas against all religious groups, and the "progressive elimination" of any dissenters.  Jews, Jehovah's witnesses and Protestant/Evangelicals who refused to worship the image of the beast.


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THE CHRISTMAS LIE: It's Bigger Than You Think